Is Pan D. A Man Moe?


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That's why i asked where he is because the last time we saw him he was fighting apoo and fodders with yogoro which happened so long ago so i'm legit wondering what he's doing since he didn't even help chopper :few:
Fighting off the masses including a Supernova lol.

Oda always builds up a match up, but then waits with them fighting until the end.
 
I didn't say Kings are greater than Queens in every single card game. But they are normally higher.

They weren't presented as being equal, just above jack. There is a difference. It is your imagination that believes they are equal.
“King useless as he is.”
“Queen inept as he is.”

This was their introduction clearly portraying a rivalry.

Marco: “It’s not easy fighting two billion bounty pirates.”

Marco made no distinguish between them when they fought.

Kaido: “You can challenge any calamity for the spot.”

Even Kaido considers the calamities to be equal

What portrayal is there for king > Queen? His name? Is that it? If so Doffy >> King...
 
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Jinbe has bruise while WsW looking clean and that just in base form.
The fight change when he enter hybrid form, either Jinbe overcome though his limit or the battle continue in water place in wano when Jinbe can use his main weapon. Overall I think the fight continue in the mainland with Momo leaving Onigashima, everything is set up now.
So far we can say WW>Jinbei without water, then again he can bend the fluids in living beings too, that doesn't seem to be of huge effect here.
 
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the Weevil possibility can't be dismissed as well as well
I really, really don't see Weevil showing up in Wano:
  • Weevil doesn't know that Marco went to Wano.
    • Weevil has no reason to show up on Wano.
  • Weevil has no way of making it up to Wano, let alone up to Onigashima.
    • Onigashima is still in the skies.
  • Weevil was last seen dealing with the Marines.


His priority was to come to help in the live floor

No, Zoro told Sanji that if Sanji wants to help, Sanji should head to the Live Floor. It had nothing to do with Zoro himself.

This is not a scene of Zoro indicating that he wants to go to the performance floor.


Zoro trust Luffy in dealing with Kaido now.

Yes he does. This is the main reason I'm sceptical that Zoro will face Kaido again. But I'll still need Zoro to indicate that he has any ambition other than facing Kaido again. He has not done so.

But the last thing Zoro heard was Kaido announcing Luffy's defeat.

When Luffy declared that he would win through Momonosuke, Zoro was sleeping.


With King being the main enemy of the live floor, it creates a build-up to their fight
Not yet. Zoro told Sanji to head to the performance floor. We don't actually know what Zoro himself wants to do right now.

I think Zoro fights King, but that is because they are in the same location and King is a traditional Zoro opponent. There is still no build-up for Zoro to fight King in particular.

Zoro hasn't indicated that he wants to help at the Live Floor. He hasn't told us what he wants to do.

For all we know, he could fuck off to deal with Orochi.
He could go and meet Hiyori.
He could try for Kaido again.

To endorse Zoro vs King, I'd need Zoro to suggest that he wants to deal with King, or help the alliance out on the Live Floor.

Till date, the only thing Zoro said he wants to do is defeat Kaido:


Zoro's last interaction with Kaido was dissatisfaction at his performance:


There are a lot of reasons to think Zoro will fight Kaido again.

I don't currently endorse it, but I'm waiting to see Zoro indicate that he wants to fight Kaido.

Likewise, to endorse Zoro vs King, I'll need to see Zoro indicate that he actually wants to fight King or do something on the Live Floor. Zoro has still yet to do so.


If you asked me which of the two is more likely:
  1. Zoro facing Kaido again.
  2. Zoro facing King.

#1 has more in story support than #2 at this point in time (there's nothing in the story indicating that Zoro wants to fight King or help at the Live Floor).

#2 has more meta support than #1 (King is a near-perfect fit for "traditional Zoro opponent").

I am not confident in either of them enough to give an endorsement.

The main determining factor would be what Zoro indicates that he wants to do after recovering.

The lack of any in story support for Zoro vs King is why I only expect that battle to happen if Marco is defeated and Zoro is the only person that can face King. If Zoro needs to face King, it would solve the problem of the lack of any support for that matchup.


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As stated in the post, he still has a plotline with Luffy, which may lead him to want to help him in some way like he did in MF, following Ace's will,
I don't see how Marco fits in Luffy vs Kaido TBH. I mean perhaps he could heal Luffy if he gets badly injured during a future battle with Kaido, but I'm not so sure that's plausible? Luffy doesn't seem to be so far away from Kaido that he'll need Marco's support in subsequent rounds.

Like Luffy may return with yet another power up when he fights Kaido again.
Kaido may be significantly weakened by his battle with Yamato (kind of like Doflamingo and Law).

If Zoro begins fighting King and Marco is not defeated, I could see Marco helping Luffy vs Kaido. This isn't something I expect to happen though.


Hence why i don't think Marco would actually be defeated here, unless temporarily captured with underhanded tactics like seastone.
Oda had a chance to remove Marco through underhanded tactics with the introduction of Perospero.

Instead of assisting Marco, Perospero went to assist Queen. I really don't think Oda wants to take this route for Marco.
 
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Wait Milaugh fanboys now saying "Mihawk > Kaido cOnFiRmEd" :gokulaugh:
They're not crazy enough for that hahahaha.

Kaido picking up a sword to kill KINEMON is part of the samurai's honor to die as a warrior, KAIDO could do that with his KANABO, just as he would with luffy and crush his skull or heart.
But he preferred to give kinemon a death that for him is that of a warrior.:kata:
 
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Jinbe has bruise while WsW looking clean and that just in base form.
The fight change when he enter hybrid form, either Jinbe overcome though his limit or the battle continue in water place in wano when Jinbe can use his main weapon. Overall I think the fight continue in the mainland with Momo leaving Onigashima, everything is set up now.
Jinbei fought against Who's Who and an army of vets (Who's Who's underlings). Who's Who now 1v1 him probably means Jinbei defeated all the vets.
 
- Perospero will sneak attack Marco.
- Perospero will team up with Queen and King to take down Marco.
- Marco will get tired and collapse.
- Queen and King will defeat Marco.
- Marco will leave the live floor and go do something else lool

and now we have "Smoothie will fatally injure Marco" loool Marco haters are delusional.
Marco will extreme diff King, while Zoro will join Luffy against Kaido.
 
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