Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1015 Spoilers Discussion

[Rootbeer]

"no just saying poor logic, hybrid doesn't always have to be the way to go. And none of them have directly stated hybrid was their best form."
Your words, not mine.

Hybrid is always the strongest form. Hybrid>Human>Zoan

 

[Cinera]

I doubt she will fully fight Kaido, more like character development than anything. If she's going to be a Strawhats, it won't be her most important fight in her life. It will be very meaningful for her character arc though.

It's Yamato's fight for freedom. It's the most important fight for her.

Like Yamato can never have a fight more important than this on a personal level.

Just as Robin can never have a moment bigger than Enies Lobby.


Zoro's most important fight for himself will be vs Mihawk.

Zoro's most important fight for Luffy and/or the Strawhats will be against the Blackbeard Pirates, the Marines or the World Government.


What do you think Yamato vs Kaido will be then? Yamato and Kaido talk?

 

[Lukegranders]

It’s ironic people wanna talk about portrayal now when it’s comes to king but give us(@ReggieZoldyck21 @rerere @Pantheos ) shit when it comes to talking about kidds portrayal.

Anyways king and queen have been always portrayed as near equals.

King does not have better endurance offense or defense feats then queen that’s a flat out lie.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Queens durability and endurance are insane. He basically brushed off two named moves from Marco without any lasting damage.

I think the only reason King can defeat Queen is because of his lethality playing a role in eventually landing a cripling strike with a very powerful sword technique.

Marco's probably the strongest non Top Tier brawler type in One Piece, and with how little his attacks affected Queen he'd probably only be able to win in a battle of endurance with his healing factor.

For Sanji to put Hybrid Queen down for good as a brawler, he will have to display insane AP. I'm looking forward to some crazy feat in the later stages of this fight

We see King this chapter too and he has 0 damage on him.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Fellas? Is Sanji a better character than Yamato?

 

[Rootbeer]

People saying King has higher portrayal than Queen seem to forget that King was coughing his guts up from a No Haki Marco kick

Was that Blood or sweat because he's working a sweat under that mask while burning. He need some ice tea that's all

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Ok, but remember if Zoro ends up fighting King, that means King beat Marco which also means that King > Marco in the end, no worries.

Marco had to hold off King & Queen for awhile and also use his limited flames to keep the Ice Oni victims alive so that Chopper could heal then. Marco’s greatest strength, his DF is stamina related. Marco could lose not because he’s weaker but because of the situation.

Marco was juggling King, Queen, and flying around to save the Ice Onis. I don’t see how he could multitask like that if King was superior. Not to mention Perrospero has been raining down arrows.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

It’s ironic people wanna talk about portrayal now when it’s comes to king but give us(@ReggieZoldyck21 @rerere @Pantheos ) shit when it comes to talking about kidds portrayal.

Anyways king and queen have been always portrayed as near equals.

King does not have better endurance offense or defense feats then queen that’s a flat out lie.

iTs iRoNiC pPl wAnNa tAlK aBoUt pOrTrAyAl
gUyS iM a sAnJi fAn bUt
gUyS iM a zOrO fAn bUt

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Say what? Kaku has better reflex, attack power, physical strength, reach than Jabra. Only thing Jabra has is moving while iron body.

Jabra has an entire fighting style he created using his devil fruit and rokushiki. Just like Kaku has an entire fighting style using rokushiki and swordsmanship.

Jabra had natural weapons like his sharp claws he didn’t need swords like Kaku did who lacked natural weapons.

The two are portrayed as near equals where Kakus strength came from his sword mastery and Jabras from his devil fruit mastery.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

unless you can show me where king and queen said hybrid was there best form then it doesn't matter

This is bad logic, queen/king didn't use hybrid on big mom

Bro are you a troll or something?

 

[Etemenanki]

We see King this chapter too and he has 0 damage on him.

My friend, we don't even see his face under that latex, how can we tell that? lol
We already saw him coughing blood by the way.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Sanji tards's arguments are :

• They are equal because they insult each other Jyabura insulted Lucci

• They are equal because they got introduced side by side yeah Marco who didn't give a fuck about Shanks's CoC is equal Jozu who is shaken by it and lost in 10 seconds his arm for life against an admiral while Marco stopped each each one of them even their strongest .

• Cards are following and known for :
KING > QUEEN > JACK
Only sanji tards would think that King is equal to queen when they play with cards lmao

• King vs Queen each one let's compare their feats :

- Queen's feat : getting two shotted by insane big mom and sneak attacking her and when she regained consciousness dude shitted his pants and then after the memories return her brain made her faint to not affect her and if you are a doctor you woule know why the brain did this reaction .

<<<<<<< KING alone shitted on big mom and her crew by kicking her ship and making her losing her memories .

- Queen vs Marco :
Queen couldn't do shit to him and got injured hard in Zoan form where he is durable asf .

<<<<<<<<<<<<
- King vs Marco :
KING made Marco losing a lot of his stamina and got bled and even his attacks didn't affect him much in base .

• King alone is fighting Marco 1 vs 1 and he didn't have the time to even help Choppa and that's why sanji intervened .

• King's bounty is a mystery while queen' s one got introduced early lmao

 

[Rootbeer]

biggest effort in the whole raid was trying to take Sanji out

I don't know holding and hyping up Marco at the same time seems a harder task than taking out Sanji.

 

[Abysmal]

Marco had to hold off King & Queen for awhile and also use his limited flames to keep the Ice Oni victims alive so that Chopper could heal then. Marco’s greatest strength, his DF is stamina related. Marco could lose not because he’s weaker but because of the situation.

Marco was juggling King, Queen, and flying around to save the Ice Onis. I don’t see how he could multitask like that if King was superior. Not to mention Perrospero has been raining down arrows.

Oh going down the Headcanon road,

 

[ReggieZoldyck21]

Kidd looks to be on the road to become the tsundere version of Law for Luffy and I'm not really liking that one bit. Oda shold've let him fight Kaido like he intended in the first place instead for going after Big Mom. What a horrible decision made by Oda for Kidd.

He smiled last chapter, he smiled this chapter too. He simply doesn’t care about Luffy either way. Whether he’s dead or alive. Y’all have to stop pushing this “Kidd likes Luffy, he’s a tsundere cheerleader” narrative. It isn’t there. That’s what Law is, not Kidd.

 

[Hiragaro]

I know you hate Sanji, but this is getting ridiculous.

What feats bruh? Failing to beat Chopper?

What feats? Well how about him Cracking BM's head?
In this Chapter it's literaly stated that he was playing with Chopper and he was about to kill him, but Sanji stopped him lol
Did you not read the spoilers?
And even without the spoilers it was more than obvious Queen was playing with him.

Base King is taking stronger attacks than Zoan Queen from Marco and was still unfazed.

Based on what? So now out of nowhere you know the ranks of Marco's skill set and what his strongest attacks are?
Marco used 2 named attacks on Queen and only 1 on King.
Marco's second attack was a cutting attack against Base Queen. And even that, Queen completely healed it.
King and Queen were both bleeding, so no idea how you get to the conclusion that King was "unfazed" but Queen not?

He was the one who damaged Marco and is the primary reason why Marco is exhausted.

"Damaged Marco" lol
He didn't take any damage from Kings Sword attack.
"Primary reason why Marco is exhausted"?
Look at the page above...
"Huff huff...as expected holding back two foes with bounties over a billion isn't easy...huff huff" + he was keeping everybody warm with his fire.

King is faster.
Has better offensive power.
Has better endurance.
Has better bounty
Better position in the crew.

Speed and probably bounty is the only thing he has above Queen.
Offensive power? Yeah, no. Queen cracked BM's head, highest feat so far.
Endurance, none of them got lasting damage, but Queen took more damage from the too of them in total - so far Queen has that point as well.
What better position does King has? Being an All Star? Well guess what, Queen is one aswell and every All Star has the same authority.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Oh going down the Headcanon road,

But all of that is clearly happening in the chapters lol. Do you deny all of that or any of that wasn’t happening?

 

[ReggieZoldyck21]

It’s ironic people wanna talk about portrayal now when it’s comes to king but give us(@ReggieZoldyck21 @rerere @Pantheos ) shit when it comes to talking about kidds portrayal.

Anyways king and queen have been always portrayed as near equals.

King does not have better endurance offense or defense feats then queen that’s a flat out lie.

People only use portrayal when it benefits their argument for a character they want to wank. When they want to shit on Kidd, portrayal doesn’t matter, when they want to wank a near featless character like King, it does. That’s just how it is. Portrayal doesn’t matter with Kidd only feats do.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Jabra has an entire fighting style he created using his devil fruit and rokushiki. Just like Kaku has an entire fighting style using rokushiki and swordsmanship.

Jabra had natural weapons like his sharp claws he didn’t need swords like Kaku did who lacked natural weapons.

The two are portrayed as near equals where Kakus strength came from his sword mastery and Jabras from his devil fruit mastery.

Lmao You realize giraffe would destroy a wolf right. Tf are you on with these Claws shit. Kaku had the superior DF. What, Kaku was using his DF too and his swiftness of the Giraffe neck. He also easily dodged a sneak attack from Jabra. Like i said Kaku had superior attack power, speed, reflex, cutting ability and fruit.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Headcanon, Marco said he was exhausted due to fighting TWO guys worth a BILLION. King hasn't been shown landing a single effective hit on Marco. Meanwhile Marco needed to use his full Zoan to dodge a laser beam from Queen.

Don't let me think you're ignoring the whole Marco/Chopper thing lol

I said King was the main reason why he was exhausted, not that he was the only reason why he was exhausted. I need not even explain King is the one who was fighting Marco for the most part.

King hasn't been shown landing a single effective hit on Marco.

Blatant lie

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Marco couldn't even regenerate his wing after this attack.

A few movements before this^, Marco was bleeding while fighting King. Queen wasn't even around when it happened.

Queen acting like nothing happened after getting hit by 2 named attacks

He was crying like a kid when took the attacks though

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Once again, these are all blatant lies. Decorating lies with cool emojis won't help you win arguments, nor do they make you look cool if that's what you're hoping for lmao.

Again, headcanons, he didn't show ANY durability better than Queen but just looked scared by Marco while Queen wasn't even paying attention
He may be faster due to his Devil Fruit and size, ONLY.
Better bounty is expected, still not meaning anything
Their position in the crew is basicly the same, as i said, side by side EVEN fighting the same opponent and doing the exactly same things since their introduction until the start of the Onigashima Raid
"They were never comparable"

King took two of Marco's most powerful moves in base while Queen is crying in pain from lesser attacks as I've posted above. King is looking better than Queen at something the latter is supposed to excel at. He showed better offensive feats as his attacks can influence even Marco's regeneration while Queen can't even tag Marco in Zoan form even when using his special weapons. His bounty is > Queen's, and their positions aren't the same. They simply share the same title, it doesn't mean their positions are the same. King is literally giving orders to everyone in Kaido's absence.

Yup, They're never comparable as far as it concerns strength.

You’re right, Queen has way better feats than King at the moment...

Sure

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