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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
If katakuri can hurts boundman he will easily hurt king.

The problem how could even connect the attack to katakuri since he seems has poor coo and get slash everytime ppl throwing attack to him lol.

He can hit or slash katakuri all day and still cant do shit
Not really. What makes you think Boundman or Snakeman is faster than King's speed? King could keep up with Marco in combat when he offscreened him. Marco is one of the fastest characters in the series and was matching the speeds of Kizaru during the Marineford war.

If anything you need to prove that Boundman, Katakuri and Snakeman will be able to keep up with Marco's and King's speeds. Not the other way around.
 
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the drama in this arc is more or less the danger that Onigashima poses if it falls. Luffy doesn't have to stop it himself, so Momo will do the job while Yamato will be there for him to encourage him.
Yamato is sensitive and knows that Luffy doesn't need any more distraction.
and Luffy seems to continue his fight with Kaido in his base form. so there is no concern about Haki loss because of G4.
 
No, its the same wing.
King attacks with the left wing, and follows through wih it to send Zoro flying.
I don't think it is, cause he attacks with the right wing and his posture is different when he sends him flying
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Why are people comparing Katakuri to King?

Katakuri lost to WCI Luffy, and WCI Luffy got neg diff by Big Mom and Neg diff by Kaido in pre udon

King is fighting and overpowering Zoro who is > Luffy pre AdCoC based on insane feats

So no

Zoro and King > Pre AdCoC Luffy > Udon Luffy > Katakuri
 
Not really. What makes you think Boundman or Snakeman is faster than King's speed? King could keep up with Marco in combat when he offscreened him. Marco is one of the fastest characters in the series and was matching the speeds of Kizaru during the Marineford war.

If anything you need to prove that Boundman, Katakuri and Snakeman will be able to keep up with Marco's and King's speeds. Not the other way around.
Speed isnt enough to beat him or else luffy will just spam snakemen from the start without bother learn fs.you need great coo near to fs+crazy manuevre/movement like snakemen to overpower him.
King couldnt land 1 attack to zoro.marco ambush him multiple time same like izo and other.speaks volume about how king poor in coo department
 
Yeah. The inconsistency I pointed out was the Moby Dick seemingly almost capsizing when Roger and Newgate clashed but not having any such effect when Shanks and Newgate did. Which is exactly why "Zoro shook the island" should be taken with a grain of salt since the environment shaking due to something is very inconsistent in One Piece.


Not necessarily ig. Shanks and Whitebeard touched, Big Mom and Kaido touched. Which is why Roger and Whitebeard not being shown to split the sky on panel seemed weird if it was a higher form of CoC and if it was clearly more strong since a massive ship on the beach of the island was capsizing due to the resulting shockwave.
Right, Oda is very intentional in everything he do, maybe there is a difference.

But still we can split this feat into two:
Where weapons touched:
Shanks vs WB
Big Mom vs Kaido

Where no physical contact:
Roger vs WB
Kaido vs Luffy

So, we have seen WB, Kaido, Roger, and Luffy using "no physical contact CoC".

On the other hand, there is Big Mom and Shanks. We have seen them split skies but with physical contact of weapons.


What would you conclude from this?
Big Mom and Shanks have lower or advanced level of CoC as compared to Roger, WB, Kaido, and Luffy?
 
I don't think it is, cause he attacks with the right wing and his posture is different when he sends him flying
He isn't attacking with his right wing. He attacked with his left wing, and is following through with his left wing. You can see that the wing hitting Zoro is the one facing the reader, as you can see King's left deltoids.



If it wwas his right wing like your claiming, we wouldn't be able to see that area overlapping.
 
Right, Oda is very intentional in everything he do, maybe there is a difference.

But still we can split this feat into two:
Where weapons touched:
Shanks vs WB
Big Mom vs Kaido

Where no physical contact:
Roger vs WB
Kaido vs Luffy

So, we have seen WB, Kaido, Roger, and Luffy using "no physical contact CoC".

On the other hand, there is Big Mom and Shanks. We have seen them split skies but with physical contact of weapons.


What would you conclude from this?
Big Mom and Shanks have lower or advanced level of CoC as compared to Roger, WB, Kaido, and Luffy?
Imho it isnt that it's related only to the timing of revelation same like backthen oda doesnt use/draw hardening when actually it is.he only throws hints.
Shanks clashed with wb was 20 years ago.bm also use not touching thing to one shot Page1
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Speed isnt enough to beat him or else luffy will just spam snakemen without bother learn fs.you need great coo near to fs+crazy manuevre/movement like snakemen to overpower him.
King couldnt land 1 attack to zoro.marco ambush him multiple time same like izo and other.speaks volume about how king poor in coo department
Not really. People get ambushed all the time. Even Katakuri didn't notice Flampe's needle attack onto Luffy. You aren't really claiming that King can fight at insanely high speeds with Marco with shit CoO right?

Luffy used FS to target Katakuri and change the direction of his attacks while using Snakeman. Katakuri showed his limiting speed when he dodged around Snakeman's gatling because he took a lot of attacks while he dodged a lot as well. Marco and King are way faster than Snakeman unless proven otherwise. Katakuri isn't dodging them like he dodged Boundman. They will be landing clean hits more easily.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
So, we have seen WB, Kaido, Roger, and Luffy using "no physical contact CoC".

On the other hand, there is Big Mom and Shanks. We have seen them split skies but with physical contact of weapons.


What would you conclude from this?
Big Mom and Shanks have lower or advanced level of CoC as compared to Roger, WB, Kaido, and Luffy?
No not really. Big Mom did use the non touching CoC when she K/O'd Page One. And Whitebeard's clash with Shanks was waaaay before all of these Haki metrics were fleshed out.

I just think that Oda made a mistake by not showing Roger and Whitebeard splitting the skies on panel in the manga. He later retconned it in this chapter when he made Yamato spell it out because it was written in Oden's Journal. It just proves that Luffy is at the level of those monsters now.
 
He isn't attacking with his right wing. He attacked with his left wing, and is following through with his left wing. You can see that the wing hitting Zoro is the one facing the reader, as you can see King's left deltoids.



If it wwas his right wing like your claiming, we wouldn't be able to see that area overlapping.

Maybe, we will see once the picture is cleared
 
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