One Piece Chapter 1030: The Impermanence of All Things

[ShishioIsBack]

I tagged you on Zoro because I don’t care to discuss Pirate Jesus or Yamatrash lol. Zoro has better feats than both of them. Frankly I assume Kid ~< Luffy because Luffy still hasn’t shown AdCoC and Gear 4. I’m not trying to pick on Zoro lol.

That's true Zoro has better feats than Luffy and Yamatrash but he has infinitely better feats than Law and Kidd.
I am not sure what Kidd has shown for you to even suggests he compares to Zoro.
Kidd was grazed by CoAless much less CoCless one homie attack and he was a bloody mess
Zoro took
-Thunder Bagua AdvCoC knock out attack and wasn't even K.Oed
-Took Big Mom's stronger and bigger homie attack head on and no sold it. Literally no sold it.
-Lived through Hakai, shit that had Midd scared for his life.

Now I am not even gonna humor your Ashura > Law's attack because that's such a shitty bait, @Echizen_Jo_Ndule can do better than that.

But lemme try to break down since you don't know, internal damage is signified by coughing up of blood, showing damage has been done to organs like Doffy was leaking blood from mouth when Gamma knife Landed.

Internal damage can be done from external attacks too when attack hits you really hard and Zoro's Tatsumki, just grazing Kaido after overpowering Kaido's Tatsumaki that launched Kidd and Kidd and Law and Kidd were helpless against, just Tatsumaki grazing Kaido made Kaido cough up more blood than Law made Big Mom cough up blood.

Kaido was white eyed, rocked, screaming, nearly lost his footage

Law's attack did as much damage to Big Mom as fucking Killer did to Kaido and it was same mechanism, damage from inside and both attacks did less damage than Zoro's attack that wasn't even trying to do internal damage.

So Law's ultimate attack did less damage to Big Mom alongside Kidd's attack than Zoro's casual attack.

How can we even compare these chumps to Zoro?
I'll tell you one more time, if you wanna push agendas use Luffy and Yamato because bringing Zoro up will only hurt your case. Zoro has best feats in the entire serious and its hardly debatable. Hakai shits on everything Whitebeard did in Marine Ford and in turn Zoro blocking it translates to Zoro.

 

[Goodman Grey]

Why would this be the only fight that doesn't actually end like the rest? Why do all the strawhats get their victories? Inu? Neko? Killer? Raizo (likely)? Drake (likely)? Why are Kid and Law the only 2 people the forum likes to make exceptions for lol?

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I'm not making exceptions. I believe that this raid is concluding the storyline of the scabbards, and that's why they're the ones finishing their fights. I also think that characters that won't be getting big fights later are getting them now (Robin and Killer specifically, since they're the only ones that have fights with actual story).
I'm saying that Kid and Law's fight is going to be interrupted, but I also think that the same will happen with Zoro and Sanji's fights, since they're the current ongoing fights.
Either that or their fights conclude with them losing.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Lmao Kidd is pathetic af

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Imagine comparing these chumps to this

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Imagine comparing these chumps to this

 

[djnhsly]

Just got the time to finally read both chapter 1029 and 1030, and tbh I kinda enjoy this chapter. It's nice to see the interactions of other Supernovas and their current situations.

I really doubt Drake and Apoo would team up together, especially with the Numbers with them. And knowing Apoo, he could take any advantage to backstab Drake, leading to Drake vs Apoo and the Numbers.

Kid and Law using their awakening are also nice to see, but I doubt it's the end for their battle against Big Mom. Interested to see more of their tricks and what more they can do with their DF power.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

According to traditional Japanese beliefs, all humans have a spirit or soul called a 霊魂 (reikon). When a person dies, the reikon leaves the body and enters a form of purgatory, where it waits for the proper funeral and post-funeral rites to be performed so that it may join its ancestors.[1] If this is done correctly, the reikon is believed to be a protector of the living family and to return yearly in August during the Obon Festival to receive thanks.[2]

If the person dies, however, in a sudden or violent manner such as murder or suicide, if the proper rites have not been performed, or if they are influenced by powerful emotions such as a desire for revenge, love, jealousy, hatred or sorrow, the reikon is believed to transform into a yūrei which can then bridge the gap back to the physical world. The emotion or thought need not be particularly strong or driven. Even innocuous thoughts can cause a death to become disturbed. Once a thought enters the mind of a dying person, their yūrei will come back to complete the action last thought of before returning to the cycle of reincarnation.[3]

im starting to think all of the metaphors and themes that Oda is using about death, ghosts, spirits, etc in Wano are not meant to be metaphors and themes, but literal parts of the storyline. Big Mom destroyed the yorishiro (sacred tree) where the spirits of the dead reside, so they have nowhere else to go, and the dead will literally hold on to their passions and refuse to die until the Fire Festival (Obon) is over. Yamato is wearing a shimenawa (sacred rope) and this designates her as a vessel for spirits like the sacred trees are, so she literally is Oden.

Maybe I wasn't expecting Oda to get this crazy before, but I'm starting to think he might be.

The Shandians thought spirits of the dead went into trees too.

 

[Mackiss]

First Onigashima falling, fine, then the armory's explosives and now that Kanjuro's fire?

Oda trying the hardest to create fake tension at the same time he shows that everyone is alive

 

[Iaarm]

Toei is very likely gonna extend that fight as well. They have been putting the effort and money so its definitely worth the watch.



The chapter gives me the impression that Law and Kidd used their respecting moves as a last ditch effort. This definitely looks like the end of their fight but I don't think Big Mom is defeated.

No way the fight is over.
This fight will be the last one to end with Kaido vs Luffy.
Big Mom will be defeated. Law will probably pull a big move in his last effort, weakening Big Mom. After that Kid will defeat her.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

No way the fight is over.
This fight will be the last one to end with Kaido vs Luffy.
Big Mom will be defeated. Law will probably pull a big move in his last effort, weakening Big Mom. After that Kid will defeat her.

lmaooooooo

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

First Onigashima falling, fine, then the armory's explosives and now that Kanjuro's fire?

Oda trying the hardest to create fake tension at the same time he shows that everyone is alive

its going to be momo holding it up successfully and then the island explodes in his face

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Man cmon just pray for it let's hope she get finished off like Peros and Jack

Sigh ok

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

wait...
are you telling me the room where apoo, drake and the numbers are is the same room where yamato and the samurai were locked up 20 years ago?
that room has the sacred cave inside of it. which means it was right at the heart of onigashima.
damn, i thought it was located outside the dome.
no wonder why kaido felt comfortable giving katanas to the samurai.
that means they had to fight the entire beast pirates to escape.

it's a very big room, even the architecture is the same, but we can't see the cave because it's behind the numbers

Okay this is legit interesting. At first I thought it could just be a coincidence but the fact that their introduction is in the same room as the three samurai were introduced to us in the story in Yamato's flashback is just too much. I don't expect them to be tobi roppo level but they may give decent fights.

 

[Iaarm]

Fact that he is even taking damage from head banging shows how dog shit Kidd's durability is. Hawkins head banging wasn't even breaking walls, Zoro was drilled through buildings pre TS.
What blows did he tank lmao?
Ikokou he blocked didn't tank and its like a 1000 times smaller/weaker than Hakai
Only one napolean blow barely grazed Kidd, it didn't even land as there was no cut mark on Kidd and kidd was a bloody mess
Zoro wasn't even phased and barely had any bruises from a bigger zeus attack.

What are you on about?

Hawkins powers doesnt have anything to do with Kids durability
The damage that Hawkins takes goes to Kid.
It is Hawkins durability that is shit.

But he has good attack power. I mean he hurt Zoro with some nails.lol

 

[Mackiss]

its going to be momo holding it up successfully and then the island explodes in his face

hope he dies

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

You what has me so confused people really dont understand kids fruits

Kid does not magnetize metal. He himself is a magnet and since metal is already magnetic he can attract it or repel it. So this whole he can do the same with buildings and other material in awakening is going to be cap since he cant even do it in base. What kidd did is make bigmom magnetic the same way his own body is magnetic which means kidds ability in awakening is making living creatures other than himself magnetic to metal.


An awakening is an extension of abilities you already have. It doesn't give you a new ability outside of the scope of what your ability is. Example an awakened mera mera user wont be using hot magma or lava. Hence why katukuri who was already able to make mouuchi had an awakening of him being able to turn his own surroundings into it. It still follows the same premise that he can MAKE moochi

 

[Finalbeta]

Boy stop the bullshit. Kidd has down zero damaged to any yonko. Hasnt made any of them bleed and still had to be saved by law. His awakening hasnt even amounted to what zoros tatsumaki did to kaido

I think Kidd is a great tank even on a yonko level scale but the thing is he simply seems to lack the amount of AP and general stats allowing him to compete with one.

If Kidd had to fight a yonko by himself I would still bet on him to get low or mid diffed nowadays. Mid to be generous.

Of course let's see if he is done with his output..

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

I think Kidd is a great tank even on a yonko level scale but the thing is he simply seems to lack the amount of AP and general stats allowing him to compete with one.

If Kidd had to fight a yonko by himself I would still bet on him to get low or mid diffed nowadays. Mid to be generous.

Of course let's see if he is done with his output..

I 100 percent agree

 

[Finalbeta]

its going to be momo holding it up successfully and then the island explodes in his face

Oda better spare our Momo San because he will be next Shogun like I predicted long ago hahaha.

 

[rerere]

wait...
are you telling me the room where apoo, drake and the numbers are is the same room where yamato and the samurai were locked up 20 years ago?
that room has the sacred cave inside of it. which means it was right at the heart of onigashima.
damn, i thought it was located outside the dome.
no wonder why kaido felt comfortable giving katanas to the samurai.
that means they had to fight the entire beast pirates to escape.

it's a very big room, even the architecture is the same, but we can't see the cave because it's behind the numbers

Unless I'm wrong, the room where Drake/Apoo are should be at the base of the castle and face the Live Floor (as for the map) and should be the same room Apoo was trying to get in right before Queen handed him the antibody (chapter 994), go check It.

The cave Yamato and the Samurai were in was probably outside the dome, at the entrance, or looked like it at least.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

but for real i think kinemon is dead right now and hes still moving for reasons that will get explained later. the dead are restless in wano for some reason

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https://yokai.com/yuurei/
Appearance: There are many different types of yūrei. In most cases, how they appear depends on the circumstances on their death. They retain the features and the clothing they wore when they died or were buried, which means they are dressed in white burial kimonos or the uniforms of fallen warriors. Occasionally, they have bloody wounds indicative of the way they died.


Interactions: Yūrei are capable of invoking powerful curses. They do not roam about, but haunt one particular place or person. In the case of a place it is often where they died or are buried. In the case of a person it is often their killer—or sometimes their loved ones. They remain stuck in this world until they can be put to rest. This might require bringing their killers to justice, or finding their lost body, or something as simple as passing on a message to a loved one.

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yeah i think theres something fucky going on