So you really think I will look for every panel, you know those attacks and I know them too. If we really have some doubt we can Check them together but I don’t think I claimed mysterious attacks nobody knew.
Beef burst destroyed someone far stronger than Pica far more durable and sent him to kingdom come. If DR ISDS and Beef burst had to clash Zoro will be pushed back hard.
After Enma for Karyudon ? What do you mean ?
that attack is stronger than ISDS in DR. It means if ISDS had to clash with that attack it wouldn’t manage to cut it and Zoro will be burnt.
My claim is all those attacks if they clashed directly against DR ISDS would beat it. Or all those attack would make more damage to the target than DR ISDS.
All the attacks I submitted or most of them would have overpowered Zoro ISDS during DR.
AOE is cool and all and Zoro had a nice feat. But let’s not pretend it was beyond high tier feat. Not at all.
It was stated by the author himself. You can’t question it.
And Zoro had some overall adventure in Wani that likely made him a little bit stronger overall.
and Enma is Enma.
You can say that Zoro has peak high tier / low top tier offense in the rooftop. But not in DR.
Sry but i asked for comparable attacks, you gave me a list of attacks not comparable at all.
If you can´t provide them, just say so, no need for misdirection.
Beef Burst was the last attack of a series of attacks, whether it would even remotely do the same as a sole attack is not tangible.
The Karyudon we have seen was after Enma, before we don´t know, but from pre-TS we can scale the attacks, and ISDS is above.
Which is baseless, sorry.
The fact that it had that much AoE is part of why it literally makes it beyond high tier, not that hard to understand.
I ask for comparable attacks, you give me a list of non-comparable attacks, fail to provide explanation beyond "they would beat it" and that´s supposed to be an argument?
Just to clarify, attack power is a blend of different stats like force (simple power), lethality and area of effect.
An attack with the same force but more lethality is superior in overall attack power, an attack with the same force, lethality but higher AoE is also superior, that´s just how it is.
Oda didn´t claim it (if you refer to the statement of Zoro in EL).
The Strawhats literally grew stronger from island to island, they literally got powerups, which is not a substitute/synonym for zenkai boost.
Adventure does not lead to progress necessarily.
But yeah, agree about the Enma part.