How many more times will Luffy lose to Kaido?


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the reason kaido dodged snakeman is not only because he can use future sight. it's also because he understood and imitated snakeman's pattern.
future sight helped him to see the pattern, but kaido's ability to imitate snakeman's movement on the fly is very impressive.
same thing happened against katakuri but kata can easily change his physical form to avoid getting hit, so it was a normal thing for him to do.

and the rule still stands: if you can't understand your opponent's abilities, you can't win.
 
The kanji for Supreme in Over Kong Gun is the same kanji that's in Haoshoku Haki (also translated as Supreme King's Haki).

Over Kong Gun in Japanese = 猿王銃
Haoshoku Haki = 王色の覇気

Plus the size and perspective arguments are pretty much the same.

King Kong Gun:

Over Kong Gun:

It really is KKG infused with COC.
Damn Luffy's AP is actually weak as shit then
Law and Zoro are clear
 

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Dude. The Kanji for King Kong is literally Oozaru. That's stolen from Dragon Ball.

This is King Kong



This is Oozaru



The "Ha" in Over Kong has nothing to do with size. The "Dai" in King Kong Gun implies a large ape.

Over Kong is just a bigger Kong Gun, but it's not KKG.
Ignoring the semantics for a bit, how do you think OKG is fundamentally different from KKG?
 
Ignoring the semantics for a bit, how do you think OKG is fundamentally different from KKG?
He thinks it's the same argument with Roc Gun vs Hawk Gun or Elephant Gun (Roc Gun being a clear mix of G2 and G3.)

Except this is not the case here. G4 is not G2, G3 or a Combination. The logic doesn't apply. Paneling shows OKG is the same size, if not bigger than KKG. Oda also just is bad at perspective, so there is a panel that shows it not being that big either in the last panels.

But very clearly it's being used as an upgrade to it, he blew up his hand like KKG. Regular KG does not blow up his hand either.
 
He thinks it's the same argument with Roc Gun vs Hawk Gun or Elephant Gun (Roc Gun being a clear mix of G2 and G3.)

Except this is not the case here. G4 is not G2, G3 or a Combination. The logic doesn't apply. Paneling shows OKG is the same size, if not bigger than KKG. Oda also just is bad at perspective, so there is a panel that shows it not being that big either in the last panels.

But very clearly it's being used as an upgrade to it, he blew up his hand like KKG. Regular KG does not blow up his hand either.
so whats the last attack then
just the same attack again?
 
so whats the last attack then
just the same attack again?
Yeah he says it again. He doesn't finish his words (he says "Over...." before CP-0 comes in to stop him.)
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Even the perspective argument fails here.

From top:
KKG
OKG

In other perspectives
KKG

OKG
Bingo
 
this forum makes me laugh who cares whether it's a KG or a KKG the only thing it shows is that luffy will get us out of attacks 1000x more powerful to exterminate kaido

and that the finisher he will use to exterminate him will make him enter the God tier

looks like nobody here has ever read shonen and don't know the principle:kayneshrug::cheers:
 
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