Will ZKK happen?


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Sasaki Kojirō

How does he not have goals?
- wanted to change the world
- wanted to become Joyboy
- said he chose wano out of all places for a specific reason
- aimed for the ancient weapons to claim the one piece

Kaido is clearly more ambitious in the grand scheme. Big Mom spent her life producing children, since she could not build a powerful crew based on people who follow and trust her due to her sheer strength.
- wanted to change the world
- wanted to become Joyboy
- said he chose wano out of all places for a specific reason
- aimed for the ancient weapons to claim the one piece
- Create the biggest pirate empire.
- During Dr was mentioned wanting to build the largest and strongest army of users .
- Conquer the world (means to become King of the world.)
- Cause war against humanity.
- Kaidou want to get One Piece.

Kaido is clearly the most ambitious of the Emperors of ALL of them.
And as you explained initially the reasons why Kaido chose Wano is because she’s special.
The kaidou’s feat of dominating the country of the samurai is undoubtedly the greatest, no matter the methods, and was bold enough to risk a total war, even in fewer numbers at the time against the entire country.


Kaidou did all this by force.
 
Hide his head and he looks like Ben Beckman in rags :crazwhat:
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How does he not have goals?
- wanted to change the world
- wanted to become Joyboy
- said he chose wano out of all places for a specific reason
- aimed for the ancient weapons to claim the one piece

Kaido is clearly more ambitious in the grand scheme. Big Mom spent her life producing children, since she could not build a powerful crew based on people who follow and trust her due to her sheer strength.
He is no different than BM. BM had plans same as him in fact she was ahead since she was even looking for Robin alternatives and tech too. But both were useless like WB...since we see no impact of them actually finding one piece...in fact, I see no one doing that even SHs are just getting things in their favor due to the plot not that they are actively planning for it.
Both Kaido and BM....we are just told they are also aiming for One piece and stuff but in actuality we see no impact from them too.
Honestly Can't think anyone other than Crocodile(who was actively looking for pluton) to be series about finding stuff
 
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Feels like Oda also wanted BM and part of her crew in Wano in order to get the current cover story going (which will hopefully be worth it)
Imo, if that were the case, he really should have given 5-8 chapters on handling her crew. Yamato could have easily handled Smoothie, while Brook/Usopp got legitimate fights against a few others (Daifuku/Mont d'Or). Snack/Compote potentially being handled by Sulong Bepo and Monster Chopper would have been great.

After this, THEN you move on to Kaido vs Yamato and the Jack/Pero's endings.


All of this could have been set up between 1011-1015, while BM was being set up to fight Kid/Law, then handled in between the F6 fights we got. Everything after 1022 could have been pushed back like 10 chapters and it would have at least made their stuff feel more complete.
 
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You know, I'm not convinced at all, nor would i even want it, but making her thr Elbaf antagonist (somehow) would probably be great for her character, even if everyone would hate it.

Like i still feel like she was always hiding some broken shit behind her powers, but Oda didn't really want to explore it. Anyway, i doubt this at this point, because the rest of her crew is practically fodder , so more likely they all become allies or some shit during that arc or the EoS.
I think they are going to become allies because the BMP were never going to be given a chance to shine and show their true power against the Straw Hats and their allies anyway, with Wano being ever worse than WCI when it comes to handicaping them.
 
Imo, if that were the case, he really should have given 5-8 chapters on handling her crew. Yamato could have easily handled Smoothie, while Brook/Usopp got legitimate fights against a few others (Daifuku/Mont d'Or). Snack/Compote potentially being handled by Sulong Bepo and Monster Chopper would have been great.

After this, THEN you move on to Kaido vs Yamato and the Jack/Pero's endings.


All of this could have been set up between 1011-1015, while BM was being set up to fight Kid/Law, then handled in between the F6 fights we got. Everything after 1022 could have been pushed back like 10 chapters and it would have at least made their stuff feel more complete.
Well maybe he really wants to save some her crew for Elbaf

I mean Smoothie can still be a decent matchup for Jinbe + another SH, Nami/Usopp/Brook haven't really proven themselves on Onigashima and Daifuku gives non-M3 fight material IMO, we haven't even seen Snack's powers, Compote is a total mystery, ... the list goes on

Dunno but to me there's still enough of the BMPs that we haven't really seen to make for a decent antagonist group on Elbaf
 
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Ballel

Well maybe he really wants to save some her crew for Elbaf

I mean Smoothie can still be a decent matchup for Jinbe + another SH, Nami/Usopp/Brook haven't really proven themselves on Onigashima and Daifuku gives non-M3 fight material IMO, we haven't even seen Snack's powers, Compote is a total mystery, ... the list goes on

Dunno but to me there's still enough of the BMPs that we haven't really seen to make for a decent antagonist group on Elbaf
nooooooooo





i never want to see the meme crew again:gonope:
 

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Yep.

Also, I am certain now that ZKK happens after Kaido's awakening that will eliminate any free will or intelligence (just like the ID guards), so it will be a mercy kill for the heroes to maintain a moral high ground.

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Losing his mind due to his Awakening doesn't sound like a particularly compelling fate for the final villain to me. I also wouldn't extrapolate from random Impel Down guards to one of the 4 Emperors.
 
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