Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1110 Spoilers Discussion

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ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Zoro vs. king was Zoro vs. Emma. You can’t possibly compare the two fights,
I agree but atleast he was giving Zoro a fight after KOH. Like exchanging attacks and legitimately putting Zoro in danger.

Lucci just got bullied this chapter, Zoro cared more about Sanji's insult rather than Lucci as an opponent and that moment was disrespectful to a previous antagonist like Lucci imo.
 

It wasn’t with Kurama and it was a casual swing, PS is definitely more impressive than a build up attack from rooftop zoro
Yes but it's current Zoro who's way stronger than Rooftop Zoro with ACoC, is it not?

Also, my point still stands. It matters how Zoro cut the large mountain sized horn. If he was cutting it in similar sense like Madara's PS, it wouldn't yield thaaat much power but the fact Zoro cut and lifted the entire horn a few kms into the sky makes this feat impressive.

Another analogy: You have Bambina cutting a 1.5km mountain in half. Sure, Madara cut two in half but what makes Bambina's feat much more impressive is the fact what he'd done afterwards with the mountain:


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According to VS Battles Wikia, Chopper is comparable to Isshiki.
VS Battles Wikia is an entire circus.
 
The moment Zoro awakened CoC he was pushing King into a corner. Lucci was fighting that same version of Zoro for an extended period of time and had to have an anger boost to beat him

Lucci is above King
Lol imagine saying this when a none CoC attack put Lucci to sleep and King was still pressuring Zoro after getting hit point blank with ACoA+ACoC slices
King downplayers are just sad man
 

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World's Strongest Swordsman
Yes but it's current Zoro who's way stronger than Rooftop Zoro with ACoC, is it not?

Also, my point still stands. It matters how Zoro cut the large mountain sized horn. If he was cutting it in similar sense like Madara's PS, it wouldn't yield thaaat much power but the fact Zoro cut and lifted the entire horn a few kms into the sky makes this feat impressive.

Another analogy: You have Bambina cutting a 1.5km mountain in half. Sure, Madara cut two in half but what makes Bambina's feat much more impressive is the fact what he'd done afterwards with the mountain:


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VS Battles Wikia is an entire circus.
Yeah acoc is the biggest boost in the series.
 
Vegapunk can make a new and improved rs with franky and usopp

Anyone can improve their haki or get conquerors. Sceience doesn’t change that
Raid Suit is Judge's specialist
Vegapunk's specialist is boots

Vegapunk is dead, he can't make anything anymore
Vegapunk's boots is gonna be the last power up Sanji will get in entire manga
There is a reason Sanji hasn't really realized yet how did he was able to block Kizaru's laser
He doesn't even know about real power of the boots yet

Mastering the boots will be his last power up
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Lucci was fighting that same version of Zoro for an extended period of time and had to have an anger boost to beat him

Lucci is above King
Umm not really.

There isn't any "anger boost" here, Zoro just got serious after Sanji insulted him and once he decided to end the fight, Lucci stood zero chance.

Oda stalling for 20 chapters doesn't change that this fight, at the end, is a 7-8 panel fight which ended with a one-shot and Zoro taking no attack from his opponent.
 
I agree but atleast he was giving Zoro a fight after KOH. Like exchanging attacks and legitimately putting Zoro in danger.

Lucci just got bullied this chapter, Zoro cared more about Sanji's insult rather than Lucci as an opponent and that moment was disrespectful to a previous antagonist like Lucci imo.
Dude what? Zoro has been using ACoC the entire time. We saw it in the first chapter.

The guy is wheezing and bruised up, anything more and it starts getting into extreme diff territory.
 
1 soldier = 10 Doriki

During Zou arc, Luffy stated Sanji is worth 1000 men, which equals 10,000 Doriki
Zoro right after said he's worth 2000 men, which equals 20,000 Doriki

Luffy calling Zoro, Onigashima gives us Zoro's Doriki power level currently.
35,400 soldiers on Onigashima during the Raid means Zoro's power level is 354,000 Doriki
Luffy has basically given us the Doriki power levels for both Zoro and Sanji.
Sanji is worth half of Zoro, so his power level is 177,000 Doriki, which is also the number used for his second bounty.

354,000 Doriki - 20,000 Doriki = 334,000 Doriki increase for Zoro after Hakai + Haki x2
This means one Hakai is worth 111,000 Doriki, and Hakai x2 damage is worth 222,000 Doriki

Sanji going from 10,000 Doriki to 177,000 Doriki, which is a 167.000 Doriki increase just from his Germa genes. This makes Kizaru's statement about Sanji's power defying physics make more sense. Sanji's genes are probably a mixture of Lunarian genes and whatever the "Love" Sanji keeps referencing is.

20,000 Doriki -> 131,000 Doriki activated King of Hell ACoC mode and Green Flames. Hakai x2 222,000 Doriki is still yet to be shown.
167.000 Doriki increase for Sanji is half of the 334,000 Doriki incerease for Zoro. Zoro's increase is twice as effective, but with much more pain between. Zoro's power of "Lost" and Sanji's power of "Love" probably contribute to these increases.

Luffy's white hair going down from white to black when he's low on energy, is similar to how a battery goes down.
Zoro's black bandana, and his green hair, are very similar to Luffy's current battery hair theme.
Sanji's Black Leg theme is to represent the flames on Sanji's legs as his battery.

354,000 Doriki Zoro low diffing Lucci, means Lucci's Doriki is pretty low.
If Lucci's power level isn't close to 177,000 Doriki, then Sanji probably mid diffs Lucci.

Zoro beat 2200 Doriki Kaku, which means Zoro was above 2200. Luffy taking in 100 shadows = 1000 Doriki + 1000 shadows = 10.000 Doriki worth of damage taken, then the combination of pain and fatigue equals the 20.000 Doriki Zoro.
Luffy saying Sanji was worth 1000 men, and him saying Zoro was Onigashima has meaning.
Sanji calling Zoro Moss Head and him saying Zoro would be worth 10 men when he recovers, has a deeper meaning just like with Luffy's statements about Zoro.
 
Umm not really.

There isn't any "anger boost" here, Zoro just got serious after Sanji insulted him and once he decided to end the fight, Lucci stood zero chance.

Oda stalling for 20 chapters doesn't change that this fight, at the end, is a 7-8 panel fight which ended with a one-shot and Zoro taking no attack from his opponent.
Serious? He got angry. No need to sugar coated

and hey guess what? oda is the author and the ultimate authority regarding the powers of his character. Zoro wasnt “stalling” Lucci, he was fighting him evenly as noted by both their exhaustion
 
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