Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 957: Ultimate

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Bogard

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1. BB's island is where the Rocks pirates formed.

2. BB has a lot of references to Xebec

3. BB was born 2 years after the Rocks were beaten.

4. BB has evil charisma and can recruit the worst of the worst(Luffy can recruit the best of the best). Rock's crew were said to be psychopaths who didnt get along and would even attack each other.

5. Unknown if Rocks D. Xebec died or not.

6. Unknown if Xebec directly influenced BB like Shanks did Luffy or someone who knew Xebec taught B a few things.
Pretty much. I think either Rocks D. Xebec will be revealed to be Teach's father or another evil D and Teach was influenced by him to accomplish his "King of the world" dream.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
Rock's crew were said to be psychopaths who didnt get along and would even attack each other.
As if we needed more hints Linlin and Kaido's alliance will fall apart. Likely in the most crucial moment. Morj did an analysis video on the themes of Wano, and loyalty and commitment was the prevailing one. It'd be poetic if the downfall of this new and terrifying allegiance was from a lack of that.
 
There were many reasons, but the main ones were

- Shanks' promise of taking the hat back if Luffy became a great pirate made it seem like Shanks already reached his peak of power and notoriety and wanting to see if Luffy would do better than him

- Garp saying in water7 that the Shichibukais were created to counterbalance the 4 yonkos, with the Shichibukais already existing back in the day

- The recent vivre card said that Shanks was already a yonko 13years ago

With this recent news though, I decided not to take data book seriously anymore. They are full of crap :kayneshrug:
Vivecard never said that.
 
1. BB's island is where the Rocks pirates formed.

2. BB has a lot of references to Xebec

3. BB was born 2 years after the Rocks were beaten.

4. BB has evil charisma and can recruit the worst of the worst(Luffy can recruit the best of the best). Rock's crew were said to be psychopaths who didnt get along and would even attack each other.

5. Unknown if Rocks D. Xebec died or not.

6. Unknown if Xebec directly influenced BB like Shanks did Luffy or someone who knew Xebec taught B a few things.
This makes alot of sense. let's not forget what Imu ( the God of CDs ) did too :



History repeats itslef
 
- Rocks was the strongest pirate crew ever.

- Rocks was defeated by Garp and Roger.

- Garp turned down the premotion to admiral because he didn't want to directly serve the C.D.

- Oden was a commander of the WB pirates before being poached by Roger.

- The Yonko's bounties revealed... Kaido's bounty is double BB's.

- BB has only been a Yonko officially for a year, Shanks has been one for 6 years.

- Roger and WB have the highest bounties ever held by a pirate.

- The leader of the rocks pirates was Rocks D. Xebec.

Easily one of the best Chapters in the history of One Piece.
It never said Strongest pirate crew ever.
 
I am thinking about Shanks plot, all that staff about the conversation with the gorosei...
I got 2 candidate:
- Black Beard
- Rocks D Xebec

What do you think guys?

What will do Shanks as next? Intercepting Black Beard? Helping Luffy? Or something relate Rocks D Xebec?

Other points:
What about the Gorosei?
Are they able to stop the rox crew?
What about Vivi and Alabasca?
Where is going fujitora?
What about the 4 revo commander?
What do you think is the new weapon that the navy want to use instead the warloard?
Are they testing it against Weevil,Mihawk and Hancock?
Why they remove the God Valley of the map? Is it because it connect to Raftel?

Do you think we will get this info in the following chapter or Oda will skip everything for after Wano?

Last point, they said that the rocks pirate were cruel, isnt that out of character for someone like White Beard? I dont get this thing :pepeke:
 
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Why you saying that PK>Rocks, while Rocks<=Roger+Garp...ofcourse Rocks could be on same lvl as Roger, but I believe that Rocks could be even stronger than PK. No doubts if his bounty could be compared to Dragon.
Where are you getting Rocks <= Roger+ Garp?? Roger and Garp fought the pirate crew, not just the captain lol. They literally show a panel of Garp & Roger taking on the Captain + WB + BM + Kaido. And this is when Garp & Roger were younger, not even in their prime.
 
teach is xebec. either truely or genetically :pepedoffy:
Luffy is Xebec, look at the description they gave him, his actions and compare it to Luffy.

Ability to make powerful allies, Check
Attacked Celestial Dragons Check
Attacked WG institutions directly, Impel Down, Marineford, Ennirs Lobby Check

Disrupted the World completely. 3 Warlords taken down by him causing the End of the Warlord system. Did damage to Big mom home island and Kaido's opperations.
 
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Uncle Van

Taxes Are a Sickness
Pretty much. I think either Rocks D. Xebec will be revealed to be Teach's father or another evil D and Teach was influenced by him to accomplish his "King of the world" dream.
Possibly. Xebec and Roger even mirrors Shanks and BB.

1. Rocks' Era
Rocks D. Xebec recruits psychos with his charisma and wants to destory the WG and take over the world. Pretty much he embodies control, not freedom. Roger who embodies freedom and probably had quite a bit Void Century knowledge at the time, knew he had to stop Rocks. He joined forces with Gatp and succeeded.

2. Roger's Era
Roger simply continues his journies and has Shiki as a thorn who wants to conquer the world(and a former Rocks pirate) Roger gets sick and cant do anymore. Near the end he tells WB about the Void Century and D clan.

3. Great Pirate Era(Stability)
WB chooses to rule without becoming PK with BB under his flag. BB decides to play smart and bid his time, with Shanks going out of his way to prevent BB, who is about control n' destruction just like Rocks Xebec, from rising to power(aka Roger wanting to stop Xebec) but he fails.

4. Worst Gen Era(Chaos)
BB successfully climbs in power while using his charisma to recruit more psychos, essentially skipping an era.
 
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