Spoiler One Piece Chapter 972 Spoilers Discussion

[ImmaIvanoM]

Or he couldn't 20 years back?

Tho i am not sure if Zoan really can use Haki or not. Maybe Awakening/or after perfecting df they can.

But 40 years ago he was beaten up and smacked around like a baby by Roger and Garp and nd his entire pirate crew was wiped out and he ran like a little bitch. YET HE NEVER GOT A SINGLE SCAR FROM THAT ENTIRE WAR.

Are you saying that this battke with Oden 20 years ago that he ultimately WON was a tougher battle for Kaido than the one he had 40 years ago against Roger Sengoku and Garp that he LOST?

And you realise we've seen people use Haki WHILE UNCONSCIOUS. Like Luffy knocked out fodder while unconscious and Whitebeard defaeted rookie Ace while he was asleep. So high tier Luffy and top tier Whitbeard can use Haki while they are unconscious but a fully conscious Kaido in Zoan form for some reason Cannot use haki

 

[Hiragaro]

I hope we don't get another FB later on, but this time About Toki

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

There's gotta be some mistranslations with this. WB/Garp/Sengoku/Rayleigh /Gaban/ n others were still alive.

And tiny chance somehow this was true.
They still could tag team Kaidou ass. Another failed logic from Oden?

I can see why Oda went with this. Already hating the Choosen one Plot.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

We havent seen him use haki in full Zoan. Its fair to think that. Plus dont evade the fact he cant use his arms or weapon

Im not saying haki makes them invulnerable. But increases their attacks and defences. Besides Kaido and BM are not invulnerable. They just have high resistantance to attacks. They can still be hurt by other Top Tiers obviously. Big Meme never fought any Top Tiers in that state.

Are you dumb. I never have claimed Kaido can turn off invulnerability. Im literally the one saying he doesnt even have invulnerability. Stop putting words in my mouth to win the argument.

Well the manga has made it it clear that ONLY ODEN has proven Kaido isn't invulnerable. For 40 yards of piracy, it didn't matter whether Kaido was a Rookie fighting the fuckin pirate king and Garp or he was a full blown Yonkou confronting shanks dung marineford, ONLY ODEN scarred him. Haki or no haki, zoan form or no zoan form. ONLY MOTHERFUCKIN ODEN

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

So I guess this either didn't happen or it was off-screened.... I swear this flashback was like a ball and chain for oda. He really wanted to wrap it up

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

We havent seen him use haki in full Zoan

And you realise we've seen people use Haki WHILE UNCONSCIOUS. Like Luffy knocked out fodder while unconscious and Whitebeard defaeted rookie Ace while he was asleep. So high tier Luffy and top tier Whitbeard can use Haki while they are unconscious but a fully conscious Kaido in Zoan form for some reason Cannot use haki

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Something respectful about Oden ...

He didn't thought HIS son would be the next JoyBoy or something, he just said someone which is great.

Unlike Roger who went to hunt pussy so his son could be the next JoyBoy.

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

But 40 years ago he was beaten up and smacked around like a baby by Roger and Garp and nd his entire pirate crew was wiped out and he ran like a little bitch. YET HE NEVER GOT A SINGLE SCAR FROM THAT ENTIRE WAR.

Are you saying that this battke with Oden 20 years ago that he ultimately WON was a tougher battle for Kaido than the one he had 40 years ago against Roger Sengoku and Garp that he LOST?

And you realise we've seen people use Haki WHILE UNCONSCIOUS. Like Luffy knocked out fodder while unconscious and Whitebeard defaeted rookie Ace while he was asleep. So high tier Luffy and top tier Whitbeard can use Haki while they are unconscious but a fully conscious Kaido in Zoan form for some reason Cannot use haki

Assumption, he was a rookie thn and We don't know how the fight went.
Garp n Roger focus was Rox. That's how WB, Kaidou n BM survived n not Rox.

Need not answer nw.

Katakuri, high tier has Advance CoO haki n BM don't. PLs don't decide Haki.
Kaidou obviously grew stronger over the years. Maybe he hadn't perfected his df thn, or his Haki grew stronger.

 

[Enma]

Didn't chck all the posts, what are the actual translations thn?

You can find it in Spoiler Summaries and Images

 

[Shura]

Unlike Roger who went to hunt pussy so his son could be the next JoyBoy.

nope...that was not happened...he just said casually "his son" to which Rayleigh replied..."you don't have one"...

 

[Diamond]

So Oden didn't die by direct boiling after all. Orochi just resorted to reprehensible tactics. Not surprised. Glad to be getting back to the main story line soon.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

nope...that was not happened...he just said casually "his son" to which Rayleigh replied..."you don't have one"...

And he said later I " Will" have one....which was him going to hunt pussy and later die.


And don't add " casually" to make it look less trash.

 

[Reborn]

Something respectful about Oden ...

He didn't thought HIS son would be the next JoyBoy or something, he just said someone which is great.

Unlike Roger who went to hunt pussy so his son could be the next JoyBoy.

Well for someone to be joyboy he must be a D. Since momo isn't then there was no need for oden to place any expectation on momo being joyboy.


But with Roger it was different case. Not only he was a D but also he became a pirate king and learning true history and purpose of one piece. So,if he gets a child carrying his own genes and some of his traits then chances are high that he might be that joyboy.... LoL

 

[Eustass]

WOW IM GONNA CELEBRATE TODAY FINALLY ODEN DIED

Post automatically merged: Feb 18, 2020

Amen

 

[Monet]

Something respectful about Oden ...

He didn't thought HIS son would be the next JoyBoy or something, he just said someone which is great.

Unlike Roger who went to hunt pussy so his son could be the next JoyBoy.

at least roger didnt dance

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope we don't get another FB later on, but this time About Toki

I feel we are luckly definitely done with flashbacks for a long time. At best we will have an half chapter flash when Toki's DF will be stolen I suppose.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

So I guess this either didn't happen or it was off-screened.... I swear this flashback was like a ball and chain for oda. He really wanted to wrap it up

this was how we all thought the events went
odda then created the 5 years plot lol

we dont even see kaido asking intels from oden

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

So I guess this either didn't happen or it was off-screened.... I swear this flashback was like a ball and chain for oda. He really wanted to wrap it up

ODEN DOESN'T USE CONQUERORS HAKI EVEN ONCE

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Well for someone to be joyboy he must be a D. Since momo isn't then there was no need for oden to place any expectation on momo being joyboy.


But with Roger it was different case. Not only he was a D but also he became a pirate king and learning true history and purpose of one piece. So,if he gets a child carrying his own genes and some of his traits then chances are high that he might be that joyboy.... LoL

His traits... inherited...



Captain Morgan and Hemeppo wanna talk with you...

 

[silverfire]

This arc contains Oda’s flimsiest writing yet.