Spoiler One Piece Chapter 974 Spoilers Discussion
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Honestly I wouldn't mind it if he was written to be stronger than King and Zoro fights him...
I would love it
but.. who knows what Oda has in store...
But if we're being honest... Orochi has the 2nd best DF from enemy right under Kaido.
His DF is higher in rank than all 3 calamities... since the calamities are ancient type... while Orochi's is mythical
I would love it
but.. who knows what Oda has in store...
But if we're being honest... Orochi has the 2nd best DF from enemy right under Kaido.
His DF is higher in rank than all 3 calamities... since the calamities are ancient type... while Orochi's is mythical
I'll just summarize it here, since it could get long. :p
Back then, I had the idea that Shutenmaru was the traitor, and the reason lies in the idea that he gave up ever since he lost his comrades 10 years ago, witnessed these 20 years how Kaido was unstoppable, and believed that Kinemon's plan will fail, just like every other rebellion; him witnessing Luffy - the guy Kinemon recruited with the minks - getting one-shot by Kaido back then - would've cemented this further.
His motive was that he wanted to prevent any more pointless deaths as what happened with every other rebellion in the past, and this might've got him to join the fight... which was just like Oden, who wanted to ensure no one else got killed, even to his death. But with Shutenmaru, I also had the idea that he believed the scabbards lived far enough these 20 years.. and so wants to die fighting with honour, with all of them.
But this relies on the idea that there was no spy 20 years ago... and this idea took a massive down-turn when Oda emphasised that the spy existed 20 years ago yet again, via Neko and Inu's fighting. Doing it twice, thru Kaido and these two, it's basically a Chekhov's gun at this point... the spy had to exist 20 years ago..
So I had doubts about this since then, and that I might've been wrong.
But Kanjuro was a close second after him... but he would've been too obvious.
Back then, I had the idea that Shutenmaru was the traitor, and the reason lies in the idea that he gave up ever since he lost his comrades 10 years ago, witnessed these 20 years how Kaido was unstoppable, and believed that Kinemon's plan will fail, just like every other rebellion; him witnessing Luffy - the guy Kinemon recruited with the minks - getting one-shot by Kaido back then - would've cemented this further.
His motive was that he wanted to prevent any more pointless deaths as what happened with every other rebellion in the past, and this might've got him to join the fight... which was just like Oden, who wanted to ensure no one else got killed, even to his death. But with Shutenmaru, I also had the idea that he believed the scabbards lived far enough these 20 years.. and so wants to die fighting with honour, with all of them.
But this relies on the idea that there was no spy 20 years ago... and this idea took a massive down-turn when Oda emphasised that the spy existed 20 years ago yet again, via Neko and Inu's fighting. Doing it twice, thru Kaido and these two, it's basically a Chekhov's gun at this point... the spy had to exist 20 years ago..
So I had doubts about this since then, and that I might've been wrong.
But Kanjuro was a close second after him... but he would've been too obvious.
Kidd probably has a grudge with Queen for torturing him and his partner.
Law probably has a grudge with Jack for trashing his crew members back in Zou.
Law probably has a grudge with Jack for trashing his crew members back in Zou.
Though would be interesting if Sanji and Zoro team up with Kidd and Law vs King and Queen fights respectively too.
Theres actually evidence for Orochi having a form of reasonable durability. Last chapter he was seemingly jealous at the fact that Oden could survive boiling oil for more than an hour. He was taking a bath and apparently the water was hot enough to burn his servants hand.
Its clear that he has some sort of strength, and depending on the person (please just be God Usopp lmao), he may pose a challenge to them.
Its clear that he has some sort of strength, and depending on the person (please just be God Usopp lmao), he may pose a challenge to them.
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