Spoiler One Piece Chapter 980 Spoilers Discussion

[kurohime]

>Unconscious Luffy had to get saved and carried by Zoro
>But Zoro somehow took the L
Holy shit, you're truly retarded "hahahaha"

Luffy took a far more devastating attack. Apparently you don't understand that.

 

[Sentinel]

Zoro took a W because he got hurt, ran away, and saved by kid
Not even luffy fans can argue a W because they can accept the L

Both characters took their huge Ls, the one fandom can accept the L, another one not lol.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

No Luffy CoO isnt trash.
It is just that Oda doesn't know what to do, so he makes Luffy retarded to not use CoC and FS just to hype fodder or weaker dude.

"Zoro dura an endurance is better ' nope, you gotta be crazy to even say this.
*Zoro took a small cutting attack while the attack Apoo used on Luffy is a powerful blast that he used on Kizaru!

Stop making up excuses to defend
Oda took an L for how he writes Fights /PL
Luffy and Zoro took Ls from Apoo.

Both attacks were used on Kizaru you little snowflake.

And both attacks were strong enough to chop Kizaru body /limbs .

"small attack" ?
Since when receiving attacks that can dismember individuals are small attacks ?

Isn't kid missing an arm?


Both L ? Yep
Oda used both as hypetool.

 

[Rivaille]

Both

 

[Un-amed]

Sanji fans are just mad he aint in the fight scene and too busy staring at Nami and Robin

And not because we want them to be fine for the battle?
Yeah, for sure...

 

[worst pirate]

It's obvious that Oda doesn't even bother to give any semblance of credibility to Luffy, Zoro or any of the Straw Hats' durability and endurance. A perfect case of the MC being as resistant as the plot needs him to be.

Isn’t that the trope for almost all manga/comic characters . Their power depended on plot . Its not like its the first time this has happened in any series .

 

[Ravagerblade]

Both

So they're so nervous at outcomes that they question themselves before ultimately pushing both buttons?

 

[OmegaPsyche]

Both characters took their huge Ls, the one fandom can accept the L, another one not lol.

Zoro got slashed numerous times by Daz Bones, the Apoo slash had not much impact on Zoro, Luffy on the other hand...

 

[ShishioIsBack]

If he used FS he'd just see himself explode, not what caused the explosion... hence he can't dodge.

I'm not making an excuse in fact you are adding something to an ability (FS) that it doesn't have.

Sound and light wave work the same way. If observation Haki can help you react to wave of lights it can also help you react to wave of sound.

And if Luffy sees himself exploding when he is on a certain spot, why doesn't he move away from that spot? Why not point out that would explode in that area? DId he even see himself exploding? Was he even aware of something happening? Your argument has so many flaws.

Why are you going to so many lengths do defend a fictional character? And what is your excuse for him being decapitated?

 

[kurohime]

You wanna make excuse for Luffy but you were same dude who was saying Zoro took an L against Killer because he passed out and his endurance is trash now despite not recognize that was also done for plot?

Why so much hypocrisy because Luffy has defeated your favorite character Katakuri?

Luffy got decapitated while Zoro casually tanked that attack. It wasn't a small cut, there was a massive splash of blood.
It was just Oda reaffirming what he has established pre TS. Zoro's durability and endurance is a tier above luffy's.


Now Killer's Stab >> Apoo's slash > Apoo's pounding on Luffy >> Everything Katakuri took from Luffy.

You started this bullshit, now live with it.

Except Zoro was out for hours and needed medical attention. Luffy would have been back up with or without Zoro running away with him. Luffy recovers far faster than Zoro

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Zoro took a small cutting attack while the attack Apoo used on Luffy is a powerful blast that he used on Kizaru!

Good point, looks like Kizaru is still >>>>> Luffy lol.

 

[Paperchampion23]

next week....Queen gets his shot
next next week....F6
finally...Kaido again....

Act 3 ends with pack of L's to the so called future PK.....

I'm confused...

On one hand, everyone shat on WCI for BMs crew not wrecking characters, but the moment a Kaido crewmember does, it's a bad thing?

Not really a knock on you, but a knock on this fanbase. Do people actually want Luffy to just win against Kaido the next time they fight? Like after getting one shot? In the flip side, would people actually be mad if Luffy got hurt against a Yonko crew?

 

[kurwa]

This shit is funny AF for Sanji fans, after he tanked Page One (Apoo's superior) no problem and took him out for 10 days

 

[Taesthetic]

yoooo zoro fans are reaching, both zoro and luffy took a massive L in this chapter, you basically argue which L was smaller.

LMAOO

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Except Zoro was out for hours and needed medical attention. Luffy would have been back up with or without Zoro running away with him. Luffy recovers far faster than Zoro

Luffy was k.o in middle of a bunch of enemies .

Easy target for any enemy sword even fodders (remember WB body).

Zoro running away?
Zoro helping his captain.

Quite simple.

 

[blackout]

No Luffy CoO isnt trash.
It is just that Oda doesn't know what to do, so he makes Luffy retarded to not use CoC and FS just to hype fodder or weaker dude

"Zoro dura an endurance is better ' nope, you gotta be crazy to even say this.
*Zoro took a small cutting attack while the attack Apoo used on Luffy is a powerful blast that he used on Kizaru!

Stop making up excuses to defend your favs Ls.
Oda took an L for how he writes Fights /PL
Luffy and Zoro took Ls from Apoo.

Yeah I can't believe are actually debating this lol. Oda has shown time and time again he does not give two shits about Power Levels or portrayal, that stuff is just implied. Hell he'd have Whitebeard knocked out by a Buggy attack if it lead to some comedic moment or new portrayal of an attack. It's one of the reasons I don't participate in battle arenas and I think it's pointless to have them for One Piece. Luffy is up and fine by the end of the chapter which is all you need to take away from that encounter.

 

[Ravagerblade]

They getting so worked up and are the ones doing the real damage control.
Just sit down and enjoy the show, in two weeks. :(

 

[Sade]

" Luffy got hit cuz Muh plot and Oda doesn't know what to do with FS "

"Zoro has trash Coo and He fainted against Killer, has nothing to do with Plot, his endurance is trash "

Lol

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Sound and light wave work the same way. If observation Haki can help you react to wave of lights it can also help you react to wave of sound.

And if Luffy sees himself exploding when he is on a certain spot, why doesn't he move away from that spot? Why not point out that would explode in that area? DId he even see himself exploding? Was he even aware of something happening? Your argument has so many flaws.

Why are you going to so many lengths do defend a fictional character? And what is your excuse for him being decapitated?

Because Apoo is fodder and not worth FS. But you never know when they have hax DF's. He'd make the same mistake aganst Sugar and Perona if unaware about their powers.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Except Zoro was out for hours and needed medical attention. Luffy would have been back up with or without Zoro running away with him. Luffy recovers far faster than Zoro

He didn't "need" medical attention, he was given one anyways. Are you telling me Zoro would have died if he didn't receive 'medical attention"? Is Hiyori a doctor and can perform life saving surgeries? What are you basing that on?

This is called needing medical attention

Getting stabbed on top of eating poisonous food for days (one bite of which nearly killed Beppo) took a toll on Zoro and he passed out for few hours. Few hits from Apoo had Luffy decapitated

Zoro got bandages because it was convenience. Before you go running around calling other people fanboys, take a look at yourself.