Spoiler One Piece Chapter 981 Spoilers Discussion
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But Marco would need to fight someone before the Yonko for that idea mate .
"..Oda doesn't intend to give the SHs crew an extreme high diff fight against YC..."
The peak of the Yonko saga (8+years ) which will have a confrontation against a Yonko crew and Oda will still keep the SHC from being a decent force against emperors ?
This would be so weak writing bro.
They share similarities but as I said nothing is gained in favor of Marco unless Oda makes King a low top tier or something.
(So Marco can grow to fight a Yonko )
"..Oda doesn't intend to give the SHs crew an extreme high diff fight against YC..."
The peak of the Yonko saga (8+years ) which will have a confrontation against a Yonko crew and Oda will still keep the SHC from being a decent force against emperors ?
This would be so weak writing bro.
They share similarities but as I said nothing is gained in favor of Marco unless Oda makes King a low top tier or something.
(So Marco can grow to fight a Yonko )
One problem I have with Marco vs King is that King has had very little onscreen presence so far. Considering he's Kaido's strongest subordinate we know of, it's reasonable to suspect he's being saved for a larger purpose just like every other top pirate subordinate until now.
I find it hard to believe King is being saved just so he can fight a tertiary character like Marco. Would Oda devote that much time to Marco vs King? Especially with how many characters he has to juggle. It sounds like a fight ready to be off-paneled.
A clash is certainly possible, but for King to be beaten by Marco seems unlikely.
I find it hard to believe King is being saved just so he can fight a tertiary character like Marco. Would Oda devote that much time to Marco vs King? Especially with how many characters he has to juggle. It sounds like a fight ready to be off-paneled.
A clash is certainly possible, but for King to be beaten by Marco seems unlikely.
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Lmao because we haven’t seen the upper limit of his strength? Again, he spent the entire day 2v1 against Doflamingo, and put him on the ground but for an emergency surgery on Doflamingo’s part. To say that he couldn’t get past Doflamingo is stupid, especially after having to fend him off and an admiral, and one of his executives at the same time as Doflamingo. Luffy struggled with Doflamingo until he went Gear 4, and that’s with the benefit of not having to fight Doflamingo alongside another opponent.
This is such an absurd line of thought, given how it’s been stated that they all get stronger island to island. Luffy is going to get stronger, but his rivals are going to stay in the exact same place forever and never grow stronger. Get out of here.
The part about Zoro’s “upper limit” is just some fanboy reasoning to try and overrate him, as if we’ve needed to see it to know exactly where he is. He struggled against Hawkins and Killer and Gyukimaru in this arc alone, but we need to see his “upper limit” to tell exactly where he is, like we couldn’t ever tell. Zoro would have gotten destroyed on Dressrosa had he fought Doflamingo. He’s a good distance behind Luffy which means he’s a sizable distance between Law and Kid. So no, we don’t need to see his “upper limit” and we Oda wouldn’t need an excuse like that because it doesn’t matter.
Lol they’re not rivals, it was just a throwback to the exact time when the three of them were separated from the rest and portrayed as rivals.
Funny that you have an issue on Whitebeard and Roger, and have been talking about Law not being Luffy’s rival because he isn’t strong enough when, to accept that Whitebeard was Roger’s rival, you have to come to terms with the fact that Whitebeard was implied to have been weaker than Roger and then later caught up to him in strength, as Roger beat the man that Whitebeard was subordinate to.
Law is only going to be a support character and won’t do any major damage to Kaido when he has an ability that acts the exact same way as an ability Luffy had to learn in order to even damage Kaido.
Law would have struggled, just as Luffy did, but let’s not pretend that his fruit isn’t strong as hell and that he wouldn’t have developed either, as Luffy did. Law couldn’t have handled Cracker with his abilities? The blind hate is fascinating.
Right. Alongside Law.
This is such an absurd line of thought, given how it’s been stated that they all get stronger island to island. Luffy is going to get stronger, but his rivals are going to stay in the exact same place forever and never grow stronger. Get out of here.
The part about Zoro’s “upper limit” is just some fanboy reasoning to try and overrate him, as if we’ve needed to see it to know exactly where he is. He struggled against Hawkins and Killer and Gyukimaru in this arc alone, but we need to see his “upper limit” to tell exactly where he is, like we couldn’t ever tell. Zoro would have gotten destroyed on Dressrosa had he fought Doflamingo. He’s a good distance behind Luffy which means he’s a sizable distance between Law and Kid. So no, we don’t need to see his “upper limit” and we Oda wouldn’t need an excuse like that because it doesn’t matter.
Lol they’re not rivals, it was just a throwback to the exact time when the three of them were separated from the rest and portrayed as rivals.
Funny that you have an issue on Whitebeard and Roger, and have been talking about Law not being Luffy’s rival because he isn’t strong enough when, to accept that Whitebeard was Roger’s rival, you have to come to terms with the fact that Whitebeard was implied to have been weaker than Roger and then later caught up to him in strength, as Roger beat the man that Whitebeard was subordinate to.
Law is only going to be a support character and won’t do any major damage to Kaido when he has an ability that acts the exact same way as an ability Luffy had to learn in order to even damage Kaido.
Law would have struggled, just as Luffy did, but let’s not pretend that his fruit isn’t strong as hell and that he wouldn’t have developed either, as Luffy did. Law couldn’t have handled Cracker with his abilities? The blind hate is fascinating.
Right. Alongside Law.
During Punk Hazard & Dressrosa Arc, Law was more relevant than Sanji & co
Capone was just as relevant as Sanji during Sanji's year
So far in Wano, Supernovas were dozens of times more relevant than strawhats
During Onigashima invasion I can't even remember seeing Usopp, for example
Wano War matchups don't give priority to strawhats, they give priority to supernovas because they represent the best fighters of the new gen, non essential strawhats are just there to offer support, don't matter if they're part of main character's crew
Capone was just as relevant as Sanji during Sanji's year
So far in Wano, Supernovas were dozens of times more relevant than strawhats
During Onigashima invasion I can't even remember seeing Usopp, for example
Wano War matchups don't give priority to strawhats, they give priority to supernovas because they represent the best fighters of the new gen, non essential strawhats are just there to offer support, don't matter if they're part of main character's crew
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It's not blind hate, it's just not blind fanboying. Unlike other characters, Oda hasn't developed him like he has with other characters. I didn't say Zoro would beat Doffy nor did I imply he had a chance of doing so. But the point is Oda still gave him a power up and hasn't given him a true challenge (where he is at 100%,) so that WHEN HE DOES fight a strong enemy, it isn't like going from getting your ass kicked by Doflamingo to beating a first commander. He simply didn't give us a proper estimate for Zoro's upper limit. And the same can be said for a wide array of characters; Sanji, Jinbe, Kid, Denjiro etc. The same can't be said for Law.
Oda hasn't given that to Law. We saw his limit at Dressrosa and Oda hasn't showed us that he's powered up since then. He's one of the main characters now, so why didn't he show that? Maybe because he hasn't gotten stronger? He showed Luffy getting stronger, Zoro getting stronger and even Sanji getting stronger while Law is seemingly the same.
How the fuck is Law supposed to handle Cracker when Luffy was struggling against him? You know, Gear 4 Luffy who had just come off thrashing Doflamingo? Yeah, Law wouldn't have stood a chance against Cracker.
The gap between Luffy and Law is so astronomically big, that it would take some fairy tail bullshit to have them being somewhat close again.
I like Law but I can't stand it when people try and put him next to Luffy like they're equals. Oda's made it very clear who is the stronger out of the two, and he hasn't made the effort to make it look close either. You saying he's to Luffy what Whitebeard was to Roger is a complete joke and is completely forcing a parallel out of nothing. Like I said before, Law will never come close to the legend that was Edward Newgate.
You're more than free to like the character (as I'm sure many do) but trying to make him out to be Luffy's equal is just silly when Oda has shown us time and time and again that Luffy is levels above everyone in the alliance (barring Marco now ofc and Kid due to the Udon rivalry).
I was referring to Wano, but you're right. That being said, Kid is more of a rival to Luffy than Law ever was.
Oda hasn't given that to Law. We saw his limit at Dressrosa and Oda hasn't showed us that he's powered up since then. He's one of the main characters now, so why didn't he show that? Maybe because he hasn't gotten stronger? He showed Luffy getting stronger, Zoro getting stronger and even Sanji getting stronger while Law is seemingly the same.
How the fuck is Law supposed to handle Cracker when Luffy was struggling against him? You know, Gear 4 Luffy who had just come off thrashing Doflamingo? Yeah, Law wouldn't have stood a chance against Cracker.
The gap between Luffy and Law is so astronomically big, that it would take some fairy tail bullshit to have them being somewhat close again.
I like Law but I can't stand it when people try and put him next to Luffy like they're equals. Oda's made it very clear who is the stronger out of the two, and he hasn't made the effort to make it look close either. You saying he's to Luffy what Whitebeard was to Roger is a complete joke and is completely forcing a parallel out of nothing. Like I said before, Law will never come close to the legend that was Edward Newgate.
You're more than free to like the character (as I'm sure many do) but trying to make him out to be Luffy's equal is just silly when Oda has shown us time and time and again that Luffy is levels above everyone in the alliance (barring Marco now ofc and Kid due to the Udon rivalry).
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I was referring to Wano, but you're right. That being said, Kid is more of a rival to Luffy than Law ever was.
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Our man is ready to take on Kaido 
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Some people think Zoro is close to Luffy 
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