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Err, Pica >> Vergo. The one that is ~ Vergo is DFless Pica. Both have Fullbody Haki afterall.
But yeah, Vergo / DFless Pica > Veterans.

It is All out Pica > Jack > Vergo / DFless Pica > Veterans / Flying Six.

"But but Flying Six stomps vergo!!"
Lmao as if a group that will get defeated by Usopp / Nami is stronger than someone who bodied Smoker, Tashigi and Sanji, and broke Smoker's seastone jitte with his haki bamboo.


Yeah you're supposed to end your sentence with lol after saying jokes.
You realise that Khalifa and Blueno and that Pink haired dude could fucking slaughter the East Blue villains?

Vergo is just the Arlong of Post Timeskip
 
What is Kong Gun compared to overheat that traveled for 5-6 kilometres and still had enough potency to strike down a city block? If Doffy can’t destroy a soldier, then guess what Katakuri can’t either :milaugh:(which is what I’ve always been saying lol)
attack who can cut mountain. who can travelled 5 km is about AOe.
attack like thunder bagua or dragon breath isnt cutting mountain nor travelled far. but hit right on the target effective

it's quality vs "quantity"

law can cut mountains. but fail to even cut doffy nails. doffy prolly could do same but still fail to scracth boundman.
that's the irony of AOE
 
Drake used fullzoan form when he had fight to the death with Pacifista in Sabaody Archipelago and used hybrid form to attack Number. Fullzoan form might be slower and Drake won't have enough time to reach Luffy to ask for help so Drke used hybrid form instead which has higher speed than fullzoan form.

Queen scared shitless of BM yet used fullzoan form not hybrid. With fullzoan form Queen managed to knockout Big Mom since fullzoan form has more raw power compared to hybrid form since hybrid form won't be enough to knock out BM.

I think it depends on the situation.
Full zoan is about power, but slow has hell and normally a bigger target. Its trash. Oda is just saving calamities and Kaido hybrid till near end of the arc because he thinks its going to be hype when we see them. When they should be using them in these situations. How tf did Jack think he can outmamuever Sulong Minks speed when before he fought them they were faster regular. Oda just making the villiams incompetent because he wants to surprise us with hybrid designs later
 
Stitching made the limitation to Doflamingo's combat power from GK very minimal, if Luffy hadn't wasted so much endurance getting to Doffy and had gone G4 from the start and surprise Organ'd him then Doflamingo would be out.

Boundman is faster and stronger than Doflamingo, the time limit running out in the first round was PIS as Doflamingo was "one attack away" from being ko'd until he recuperated, if Luffy hadn't wasted time explaining his powers and using less effective techniques he would have won, this was plot to show the weakness of G4, to prolong the arc and ramp up the stakes, to give shine to all the small characters etc.

Doflamingo didn't have the choice but to clash, boundman's mobility is superior and he could teleport in front of Doffy and hit him with it if he didn't try to clash and defend himself properly.

If Doflamingo fought in the mirror world Luffy could have beat Doflamingo a lot easier, the wide open area was prime for his stall tactics and pseudo flight, similarly if Luffy fought Katakuri in dressrosa, Katakuri would be at a disadvantage with his lack of aerial mobility.
While I agree with most of this, this is Doffy vs Cracker, not Boundman. I don’t see Cracker handling awakening.
 
So yeah the one time they actually could fight him as a team, they had the advantage
Except that it wasn't a 2vs1 but Doffy chilling in his chair and Law switching places with him after Luffy faking to attack Law. And even then Law admitting that such trick won't work again.
Yes. The very same Bellamy and Trebol who were essential for Doffy to avoid the 2v1 situation.
Bellamy was one shot material for base Luffy. He is of no help. Doffy only used Bellamy to emotionally trigger Luffy.
 
If Oda didn’t have Doffy be retarded and try to clash with King Kong Gun, all Doffy has to do is fly around an evade. The only reason he got hit by Gear 4 after he used awakening was because he was tending to his organs (LITERALLY). If his organs are fine and he doesn’t act stupid, he just outlasts Boundman and kills Luffy.
Cool story bro lol
What you say about fact when Luffy attack Doffy with red hawk, doffy was bleeding. That attack deal zero damage to cracker. So...maybe Cracker>>>>>Jack, or Sulong Inu>>>>>Jack>Cracker>>>>>Doffy
 

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@djiayebee request from me Mr. GIB!!!
translate this please.. :neesama:
P1 : "The guy with strawhat!! Is that him? Looks like he is the boss of these pirates"
Ulti: "That guy from before!"

Fodders: "These 2! Make sure they dont get close to Mr. Strawhat!

Luffy: "That duo from before!"

Sanji: "The dinosaur from Flower Capital..! and who's that cutie next to him!?"

P1: "Strawhat, dont ever think you'll be able to meet Kaido-sama a 2nd time!!!"

Ulti: "Kyaaa Pe-tan!! Who did this!??"

Usopp hiding behind Nami: "Me Nami!"


P1: "Do you think I will miss!!"

Ulti: "How dare you do that to Pe-tan!!"
 
Just so y’all know, being a commander in each crew means:
WB - calls you a son and will go to war for you
Shank - will go to war for you and you’re one of the boys
Kaido - drinks with you, respects you, will step in to protect you if you’re in serious danger
Big Mom - disrespects you ALOT and can kill you if she gets mad
Why would anyone want to be a commander for Big Mom
That's why they are all her offsprings. No body else is crazy enough to be her commander.
 
Trebol was backup to make sure that Law doesn't take advantage of any slipup from Doflamingo, Doflamingo knows Law's abilities more than anyone and knows he can't allow Law to even get one second of offence
 
If Oda didn’t have Doffy be retarded and try to clash with King Kong Gun, all Doffy has to do is fly around an evade. The only reason he got hit by Gear 4 after he used awakening was because he was tending to his organs (LITERALLY). If his organs are fine and he doesn’t act stupid, he just outlasts Boundman and kills Luffy.
doffy doesnt have to be ko ed by king kong gun. he could just simply koed by leo bazooka.
or just 3 kong gun

see the problem here is doffy doesnt have any defence against boundman.

kong gun simply sent him across half city.

luffy said he will finish him with only 1 attack when doffy stuck on mountain but he run out energy. he could just simply storming doffy with organs but luffy need to close it asap bcause birdcage stuff.

if doffy was smart. he would just simply run. because he knew his chance are 0 against boundman. speed wise. power wise. boundman stomps him very bad.
 
Hybrid is more balanced, but if you want to emphasize certain aspects (first and foremost physical strength), then full form is more suited, and Jack being amidst a horde of Sulong minks makes full zoan the more logical choice, since he has more durability, and in hybrid he can´t dodge them anyway, considering he is slow as fuck.
Fighting the Dukes in Mammoth form is the dumbest shit ever. He couldn't even touch them before while they wasn't sulong in Mammoth form. Why the hell did he think he was going to rouch them when they like 2x faster with sulong. Oda just trying to save the hybrids for Kaido and his calamities, but making them look stupid in the process
 
Doffy Vs Cracker:

Intelligence: Doffy
Power/Strength: Cracker
Durability: Doffy
Devil Fruit: Doffy
Speed: Cracker
Haki: Cracker
Hax/Miscellaneous: Doffy

4 - 3 high to extreme diff win for Doffy
 
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Hybrid is more balanced, but if you want to emphasize certain aspects (first and foremost physical strength), then full form is more suited, and Jack being amidst a horde of Sulong minks makes full zoan the more logical choice, since he has more durability, and in hybrid he can´t dodge them anyway, considering he is slow as fuck.
Imo fullzoan form increases power massively while hybrid increases power moderately but allows more versatility.

Full zoan is about power, but slow has hell and normally a bigger target. Its trash. Oda is just saving calamities and Kaido hybrid till near end of the arc because he thinks its going to be hype when we see them. When they should be using them in these situations. How tf did Jack think he can outmamuever Sulong Minks speed when before he fought them they were faster regular. Oda just making the villiams incompetent because he wants to surprise us with hybrid designs later
I think fullzoan form has more durability. Even if Jack goes hybrid, he would still be outspeed by those minks duo and his durability would be lower than fullzoan form and he would take more damage so with fullzoan form Jack could tank damage from those minks duo until their sulong form runs out.

Jack hinted that before fightning these minks duo the strategy was to hold out until sulong minks time run out.
 
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