Why would I abandon it when there is nothing to place them above Kiado, lol. He clearly isnt? lol...
No, manga didnt convince me that Roger is above anyone because the only powerhouses that have shared Roger's era were WHitebeard and Shiki, no others. He was considered equal to WB while never being shown above Shiki. So, you can stop with Roger > Yonko because there was no Yonko in Roger's era and those who became Yonkos were never inferior to Roger, in fact it was Roger who ran away from one of those who later on became Yonkos, Meme of them all...
Roger is like a decade older than Meme and still ran away from her. You still have no clue what her line with Lola means...
Beating Red Hair, Kaido AND EVEN WB has nothing to do with individual strength, it has to do with crushing their organizations. Stop thinking in 1vs1 terms because they are not how the world works. Primebeard's subordinate was comparable to Primebeard, I dont know Oda wasnt clear about that in your eyes by wanking Oden to the heavens and saying that if Oden doesnt beat him nobody else will be able to in long time... Yes, WSC> WSM, Kaido is above both of WB/Roger.
You literally dont understand anything, even Chinjao's words. Stop thinking in 1vs1 terms lol. Surpassing Admirals and Yonkos doesnt mean what you think it means. If it was individual strength, Kaido would be what you dream of... It has nothing to do with individual strength. Being stronger than an Admiral doesnt help you at all if you face 2 admirals or if you face entire might of Marines.
Again, learn how storytelling works. Oda doesnt undermine neither of the WSx title holders when it is their 5 minutes. When Mihawk was shown as WSS, there was nobody above him, when WB was shown as WSM, there was nobody above him and as the last, WSC has no other above him and there is no title above WSC. He cant later on introduce a character with a stronger title.
There is no evidence of them being above Kaido, there are only their achievements as pirates which are considered as greater because Kaido hasnt done anything particularly notable in the world. All his fame comes from his own strength, you should re-read his bounty reveal part. All others are famous for something else while Kaido is famous for his own STRENGTH.
Yes, I would claim that flashback Kaido > Roger because flashback Kaido > WB which Oden literally said and because flashback Kaido is no different than current Kaido. His title is supreme when it comes to individual strength, it doesnt refer to organizations, to traveling achievements or any other silly stuff, it refers only to individual strength. That's where Kaido rules supreme because he is an anomaly, nobody else is like him. Nobody else is hyped up through loses, it's ridiculous to even doubt Kaido being nr1 at this point.
No, manga didnt convince me that Roger is above anyone because the only powerhouses that have shared Roger's era were WHitebeard and Shiki, no others. He was considered equal to WB while never being shown above Shiki. So, you can stop with Roger > Yonko because there was no Yonko in Roger's era and those who became Yonkos were never inferior to Roger, in fact it was Roger who ran away from one of those who later on became Yonkos, Meme of them all...
Roger is like a decade older than Meme and still ran away from her. You still have no clue what her line with Lola means...
Beating Red Hair, Kaido AND EVEN WB has nothing to do with individual strength, it has to do with crushing their organizations. Stop thinking in 1vs1 terms because they are not how the world works. Primebeard's subordinate was comparable to Primebeard, I dont know Oda wasnt clear about that in your eyes by wanking Oden to the heavens and saying that if Oden doesnt beat him nobody else will be able to in long time... Yes, WSC> WSM, Kaido is above both of WB/Roger.
You literally dont understand anything, even Chinjao's words. Stop thinking in 1vs1 terms lol. Surpassing Admirals and Yonkos doesnt mean what you think it means. If it was individual strength, Kaido would be what you dream of... It has nothing to do with individual strength. Being stronger than an Admiral doesnt help you at all if you face 2 admirals or if you face entire might of Marines.
Again, learn how storytelling works. Oda doesnt undermine neither of the WSx title holders when it is their 5 minutes. When Mihawk was shown as WSS, there was nobody above him, when WB was shown as WSM, there was nobody above him and as the last, WSC has no other above him and there is no title above WSC. He cant later on introduce a character with a stronger title.
There is no evidence of them being above Kaido, there are only their achievements as pirates which are considered as greater because Kaido hasnt done anything particularly notable in the world. All his fame comes from his own strength, you should re-read his bounty reveal part. All others are famous for something else while Kaido is famous for his own STRENGTH.
Yes, I would claim that flashback Kaido > Roger because flashback Kaido > WB which Oden literally said and because flashback Kaido is no different than current Kaido. His title is supreme when it comes to individual strength, it doesnt refer to organizations, to traveling achievements or any other silly stuff, it refers only to individual strength. That's where Kaido rules supreme because he is an anomaly, nobody else is like him. Nobody else is hyped up through loses, it's ridiculous to even doubt Kaido being nr1 at this point.
