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The tobi too considering he even had that double spread for all of them when they were first introduced.
I think Oda doesn’t want to distract people with bounties

He knows that people take bounties as power levels and imagine that scene where Ulti head butted Luffy and Luffy had to go Gear 4 to escape her

The entire conversation around that would be “WHAT THE FUCK?! This 400 million bitch is fucking up the 1.5 billion man”

These numbers are distracting. Yes, Oda has established that Bounties =/= Power levels but he also knows that 12 year old boys and grown ups who think like 12 year old boys are reading this

Every Tobi roppo fight would be surrounded by this conversation about how strong they are because of their bounties and what “makes sense” or doesnt

Then Marco fuckin around with King and Queen yet he has a lower bounty than King would’ve also been a whole other talking point

Oda showed Queen’s bounty upfront so that people can understand that we are past Katakuri. That’s it. The only reason Queen’s bounty was shown was to show progression from Katakuri to a higher bounty. So everyone else’s bounties don’t matter. Queen’s bounty is enough for the purposes of the story
 
Yup, Luffy does outrageous things and is also related to the most outrageous people in the world, yet his bounty barely increased. So there is no way other people, King, in this case, will get bigger bounty increases over far less outrageous reasons.

I did not say King's race played no role in increasing his bounty. It just doesn't play as big a role as you're making it out to be. You're just forcing this nonsense of an agenda on to us to glorify Katakuri. You and your fellow Mochi Riders are being naive if you think we can't see through it.
Just give it up

King is all about his race...it is his race even which gives him those fire powers which make King great
While Regen with his df is the reason why Marco is strong
Haki mastery and Great skills is what makes Katakuri strong
Benn is all about haki mastery and fighting skills too

His race boosted his bounty
Family, race, affiliations, intelligence are huge factors if those things are direct threat to wG
 
So interesting, now we can fully compare Big Mom and Kaido's crew bounties. Let's take the 9 known from Kaido and compare them with the 9 Known from BM (not including Supernova or "traitors" i.e. Pekoms):

- Kaido: 4.611 Billion
- King: 1.39 Billion
- Queen: 1.32 Billion
- Jack: 1 Billion
- WsW: 546 Million
- BM is 480 Million
- Sasaki: 472 million
- Ulti: 400 Million
- Page One: 290 Million


- Big Mom: 4.388 Billion
- Katakuri: 1.057 Billion
- Smoothie: 932 Million
- Cracker: 860 Million
- Peros: 700 Million
- Snack: 600 Million
- Tamago: 429 Million
- Oven: 300 Million
- Daifuku: 300 Million


So it's interesting comparitively:

- Average for the Beast Pirates is 1.169 Billion
- Average Bounty for the BM Pirates is 1.063 Billion

Not very far off on average between the crews. I wonder if this was deliberate by Oda to make the F6 bounties significantly lower than Peros, who conveniently has survived passed them at this point. A big thing to note is adding Apoo/Hawkins would have lowered the Beast Pirate Average bounty significantly. Additionally, Compote is one of the more notable crew members that does not have a bounty. I figured she would be between Snack/Peros or around there, but outside of being called a "monster" has never really been featured in any capacity.

Kaido also has the 2 extremes in his crew, Page 1 being the lowest and his own bounty being the highest. But you can just see how Kaido's side is a lot more frontloaded with the calamity bounties, but offset by much lower F6 ones. While BM's crew seems to have a more comfortable 100-150 Million jumps leading us from 300 Million to a Billion, rather than the huge leaps of 300-500 million such as going from WsW to Jack or Jack to Queen.


Just cool to think about. It is however unfortunate that:

- The F6 were disposed of too quickly to really feel the presence of their bounties. Like even Apoo/Hawkins are still around and they aren't even ancient Zoans.

- Certainly did not see enough of BM's side of things outside of a few particulars. But Snack, Daifuku, Smoothie, Tamago, etc are still a few left out of feeling more formidable as well.

Doubtful Oda addresses both of these "weaker" links, he'd have to bring back the F6 as threats yet again and have the BMP show up finally, but whatever.
 
I think Oda doesn’t want to distract people with bounties

He knows that people take bounties as power levels and imagine that scene where Ulti head butted Luffy and Luffy had to go Gear 4 to escape her

The entire conversation around that would be “WHAT THE FUCK?! This 400 million bitch is fucking up the 1.5 billion man”

These numbers are distracting. Yes, Oda has established that Bounties =/= Power levels but he also knows that 12 year old boys and grown ups who think like 12 year old boys are reading this

Every Tobi roppo fight would be surrounded by this conversation about how strong they are because of their bounties and what “makes sense” or doesnt

Then Marco fuckin around with King and Queen yet he has a lower bounty than King would’ve also been a whole other talking point

Oda showed Queen’s bounty upfront so that people can understand that we are past Katakuri. That’s it. The only reason Queen’s bounty was shown was to show progression from Katakuri to a higher bounty. So everyone else’s bounties don’t matter. Queen’s bounty is enough for the purposes of the story
One of the rare occasion you actually make sense. Kudos.
 

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Just give it up

King is all about his race...it is his race even which gives him those fire powers which make King great
While Regen with his df is the reason why Marco is strong
Haki mastery and Great skills is what makes Katakuri strong
Benn is all about haki mastery and fighting skills too

His race boosted his bounty
Family, race, affiliations, intelligence are huge factors if those things are direct threat to wG
Yeah, Katakuri isn't literally the greatest of a Yonko's offsprings. It sure played no role in his bounty lmao.
 
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