@dirtyLarry What does it take for you to realize that Zoro is stronger?
Killing Kaido?
Proclaimed strongest in the world?
Beating Luffy?
Something else?
Killing Kaido?
Proclaimed strongest in the world?
Beating Luffy?
Something else?
Future Events POLL: Is the Zoro vs King fight good or bad for Zoro
- Thread starter bennbeckman
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Never could he as bad for Zoro is it was for Marco. How embarrassing.
With Zoro it's good because he should have a takeaway from the rooftop that makes him even stronger. Worst case scenario though, is that this is his fight and he can't make it to kill Kaido. This would be a waste of time and a shitty usage of the story Oda has been building. But, it would still be his greatest W in the series. He will beat a Katakuri peer without needing to be bailed out and pitied.
With Zoro it's good because he should have a takeaway from the rooftop that makes him even stronger. Worst case scenario though, is that this is his fight and he can't make it to kill Kaido. This would be a waste of time and a shitty usage of the story Oda has been building. But, it would still be his greatest W in the series. He will beat a Katakuri peer without needing to be bailed out and pitied.
If he defeats King a yc1, how he can't be above other (weaker) YC all this time ? A solid yc1 after rooftop, apoo and before zkk is not a fanservice also? Lol and except if it's an extreme diff, that mean Zoro was above them all this time.
Imagine thinking Zoro will jump from t6 lvl to above yc1 lvl like that
Imagine thinking Zoro will jump from t6 lvl to above yc1 lvl like that
If he defeats King a yc1, how he can't be above other (weaker) YC all this time ? A solid yc1 after rooftop, apoo and before zkk is not a fanservice also? Lol and except if it's an extreme diff, that mean Zoro was above them all this time.
Imagine thinking Zoro will jump from t6 lvl to above yc1 lvl like that
Imagine thinking Zoro will jump from t6 lvl to above yc1 lvl like that
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Lmfao man... you asked about putting everything on luffy's shoulder.... shanks put his hat ... the fucking identity of luffy... the dream to become PK... he put this on luffy...
What Shanks (a swordsman and a former contender to WSS) got to do Zoro???
Like when did zoro had his last tough fight before Rooftop?? you have to go all the way back to alabasta... TB wasn't a fight... btw.. Daz bones was too bad for luffy as unlike crocoboi he is not weak to water and luffy didn't have strength to cut steel like zoro.... luffy got that later... so luffy would be dead if zoro wasn't there...
When did luffy had his last hard fight... every previous arc... where he is near death and has his ass saved by others to show how important team work is and how luffy makes team with everyone...
and what do you want zoro to do?? "Stop Luffy, let me fight the strong one you take weak one" I dont think luffybois can ever read it
Also stop putting your fav character to be strongest in verse... I am akagami fanboi but I dont put him blindly as strongest yonko or some other unreal shit.... he has his own strength and moments... zoro gonna surpass akagami but I dont mind it coz for me akagami is freaking awesome... and so is luffy...
every time some shit happens why do people start asking about zoro not being captain??? because strongest = captain... luffy is different... he maade WB and Akagami follow him... Man's a legend yet you are salty about punching power
What Shanks (a swordsman and a former contender to WSS) got to do Zoro???
Like when did zoro had his last tough fight before Rooftop?? you have to go all the way back to alabasta... TB wasn't a fight... btw.. Daz bones was too bad for luffy as unlike crocoboi he is not weak to water and luffy didn't have strength to cut steel like zoro.... luffy got that later... so luffy would be dead if zoro wasn't there...
When did luffy had his last hard fight... every previous arc... where he is near death and has his ass saved by others to show how important team work is and how luffy makes team with everyone...
and what do you want zoro to do?? "Stop Luffy, let me fight the strong one you take weak one" I dont think luffybois can ever read it
Also stop putting your fav character to be strongest in verse... I am akagami fanboi but I dont put him blindly as strongest yonko or some other unreal shit.... he has his own strength and moments... zoro gonna surpass akagami but I dont mind it coz for me akagami is freaking awesome... and so is luffy...
every time some shit happens why do people start asking about zoro not being captain??? because strongest = captain... luffy is different... he maade WB and Akagami follow him... Man's a legend yet you are salty about punching power
And now once again, since you only came around with whataboutism (like I predicted) and had no answer to the original question:
If Zoro was indeed stronger than Luffy, why is it that everyone always puts everything on Luffy's shoulder each arc (he is the one that has to defeat the by far strongest enemies each arc), while Zoro always gets the much weaker opponents and still has to give it all?
Do the SHs just think: Hey Zoro is stronger so him going up against the main villain gives us the best chances of survival, but fuck that. Luffy has to fight the main villain, so Zoro only gets the far weaker right-hand guy.
I know I'm talking against a wall anyway (and I'm not even sure if you're a troll or not), but for me this discussion is over now.
If you don't want to accept reality, ok. Not that I benefit from it either way.
If Zoro was indeed stronger than Luffy, why is it that everyone always puts everything on Luffy's shoulder each arc (he is the one that has to defeat the by far strongest enemies each arc), while Zoro always gets the much weaker opponents and still has to give it all?
Do the SHs just think: Hey Zoro is stronger so him going up against the main villain gives us the best chances of survival, but fuck that. Luffy has to fight the main villain, so Zoro only gets the far weaker right-hand guy.
I know I'm talking against a wall anyway (and I'm not even sure if you're a troll or not), but for me this discussion is over now.
If you don't want to accept reality, ok. Not that I benefit from it either way.
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I answered your question here:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ood-or-bad-for-zoro.16616/page-5#post-1778590
Now time for you to answer:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...ood-or-bad-for-zoro.16616/page-5#post-1778590
Now time for you to answer:
It's not a question of why SH does that but rather why Oda made all Crews like that ?
If Zoro is stronger why at least not giving to Zoro an opponent close or equal in Power ?
Instead of that the only number we got was 4000 vs 2000 ?
It also means all SH have fights who fits with their strenght but not Zoro ?
So is Zoro babysitted or Oda a retard ?
If Zoro is stronger why at least not giving to Zoro an opponent close or equal in Power ?
Instead of that the only number we got was 4000 vs 2000 ?
It also means all SH have fights who fits with their strenght but not Zoro ?
So is Zoro babysitted or Oda a retard ?
Yeah but Ben is still not stronger. So you agree case of captain being weaker don't exist. Thus the case is closed.
Oda never said Zoro was stronger than Luffy. Why will I ask him about that
None of these helps you.
Lucci had twice more physical strenght
Was a master of Rokushiki probably the best user ever seen
And on top of that He had a better DF mastery
Dude had 2 hybrid forms
He is better than Kaku literally everywhere
Zoro didn't have a real 2vs1
Luffy fought Blueno and Lucci
Oda never said Zoro was stronger than Luffy. Why will I ask him about that
None of these helps you.
Lucci had twice more physical strenght
Was a master of Rokushiki probably the best user ever seen
And on top of that He had a better DF mastery
Dude had 2 hybrid forms
He is better than Kaku literally everywhere
Zoro didn't have a real 2vs1
Luffy fought Blueno and Lucci
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Lmfao what did you said?? Most crew Captain>>>any other... but I said in RHP Captain ~ VC .... Close the case since you are the one loosing
Atleast read... you asked why zoro not fight stronger opponent every time... I said ASK ODA...
None helps me still you taking L
- Lucci has twice strength so ??? Compare luffy state and roronoa after fight
-why do I care what was he master of... we doing luffy vs zoro not luffy's opponent vs zoro
-Obviously no one can master DF in half an hour so??? whats the point??? I never said Kaku = Lucci but Kaku is not equal to half lucci as well... dude got other talents than punching shit out of people.
- so ?? should I give him beast pirate enrollment form for 50% off??
Of course he is better than kaku else zoro mid diffing kaku puts way above than luffy....
The 2v1 consisted of Kaku and Jabra and not some random ass fodder along with handicap/powerup of Ussop. The blueno fight still relevant?? Luffy stomped shit out of him... counting him disgraces luffy coz luffy almost used gear 3 on his ass before lucci
Atleast read... you asked why zoro not fight stronger opponent every time... I said ASK ODA...
None helps me still you taking L
- Lucci has twice strength so ??? Compare luffy state and roronoa after fight
-why do I care what was he master of... we doing luffy vs zoro not luffy's opponent vs zoro
-Obviously no one can master DF in half an hour so??? whats the point??? I never said Kaku = Lucci but Kaku is not equal to half lucci as well... dude got other talents than punching shit out of people.
- so ?? should I give him beast pirate enrollment form for 50% off??
Of course he is better than kaku else zoro mid diffing kaku puts way above than luffy....
The 2v1 consisted of Kaku and Jabra and not some random ass fodder along with handicap/powerup of Ussop. The blueno fight still relevant?? Luffy stomped shit out of him... counting him disgraces luffy coz luffy almost used gear 3 on his ass before lucci
You forgot the one where Luffy sees Zoro as pretty much his big brother, to him Zoro is just like Ace.
Oda has made it clear throughout the entire series that Zoro is stronger than Luffy in every single aspect be it strength, durability, AP, etc...that's why he has to nerf the shit out of him every arc so he doesn't make Luffy look bad.
Probably bzcause I dont believe that Beckmann is equal to Shanks
Sure it won't be a gap like Linlin Kata or Kaido King but not close either
Losing what ? You just prove that no crew have a captain weaker than one of his mates.
The closest is a Beckman/Shanks relation.
I read. You didn't understand my reply
Why will I ask this to Oda. He never said Zoro is stronger
So he will just answer that Luffy is stronger hence he have the strongest opponents.
I don't need to ask something obvious. His answer will be the more you are strong the more your opponents will be strong.
Zoro wasn't in a good shape either.
It's just normal that against an opponent at least twice stronger Luffy is more exhausted.
It just to show you that Luffy's oppinents are in a different league. But wgy are they in a different League ?
What's the matter of making them so stronge comparing to Zoro's one and other crew members.
Have you proofs that he is not half stronger ?
Zoro didn't mid diff Kaku.
You don't need your Secret card when you can Mid diff someone
During this time Jabra and Kaku were contesting.
Both sides didn't even launch more than one attacks. Ir was a gag scene
Blueno wasn't bad Luffy just fodderized him
Yeah because he needed to go fast in order to save Robin
Sure it won't be a gap like Linlin Kata or Kaido King but not close either
Losing what ? You just prove that no crew have a captain weaker than one of his mates.
The closest is a Beckman/Shanks relation.
I read. You didn't understand my reply
Why will I ask this to Oda. He never said Zoro is stronger
So he will just answer that Luffy is stronger hence he have the strongest opponents.
I don't need to ask something obvious. His answer will be the more you are strong the more your opponents will be strong.
Zoro wasn't in a good shape either.
It's just normal that against an opponent at least twice stronger Luffy is more exhausted.
It just to show you that Luffy's oppinents are in a different league. But wgy are they in a different League ?
What's the matter of making them so stronge comparing to Zoro's one and other crew members.
Have you proofs that he is not half stronger ?
Zoro didn't mid diff Kaku.
You don't need your Secret card when you can Mid diff someone
During this time Jabra and Kaku were contesting.
Both sides didn't even launch more than one attacks. Ir was a gag scene
Blueno wasn't bad Luffy just fodderized him
Yeah because he needed to go fast in order to save Robin
It is a very good thing, Zoro did not have a fight against a commander of Yonko like Sanji besides.
Yes he was on the roof with Luffy but what people forget is that he was not alone. Suddenly these exploits remain impressive but it was not all alone there were other people who contributed to this in a direct or indirect way.
Just because he's been on the roof doesn't mean he's automatically stronger than a Katakuri or a King.
Must be objective
Yes he was on the roof with Luffy but what people forget is that he was not alone. Suddenly these exploits remain impressive but it was not all alone there were other people who contributed to this in a direct or indirect way.
Just because he's been on the roof doesn't mean he's automatically stronger than a Katakuri or a King.
Must be objective
Its good for Zoro to take on King. He tried taking on Kaido and got wreck for his effort. There is levels to progression. Its no different for Zoro. Luffy, Kidd, and Law are dealing with Kaido and Big Mom. Killer is dealing with Hawkins. Zoro had to take a miracle drug just to get back in the game. And now he is dealing with an opponent that is more his speed.