Questions & Mysteries Straw Hat Vice Captain
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The only time Luffy has ever discussed the idea of a vice captain was when he agreed on Usopp taking charge of the ship if he ever couldn't fulfill his duties in an early chapter.
Personally, I think that the idea of a vice captain doesn't fit at all in the dynamics of the crew. Luffy is more of a democratic leader and the hierarchy of his group is flat as he understands how every member is equally important. But if I had to choose an official vice captain, I just can't see any other member matching Jinbe's experience.
Also, this may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm pretty sure that Oda was mocking those who defend that Zoro is the actual vice captain when he wrote that Bartolomeo line stating "he's the person recognized (BY ME) as the vice captain...!".
He was stated as Combatant. His vice captain role isn't official and nothing makes it different from Franky driving the ship before Jinbe or Usopp fixing the ship before Franky. Actual vice captains like Beckman are explicitly addressed as such.
Personally, I think that the idea of a vice captain doesn't fit at all in the dynamics of the crew. Luffy is more of a democratic leader and the hierarchy of his group is flat as he understands how every member is equally important. But if I had to choose an official vice captain, I just can't see any other member matching Jinbe's experience.
Also, this may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm pretty sure that Oda was mocking those who defend that Zoro is the actual vice captain when he wrote that Bartolomeo line stating "he's the person recognized (BY ME) as the vice captain...!".
He was stated as Combatant. His vice captain role isn't official and nothing makes it different from Franky driving the ship before Jinbe or Usopp fixing the ship before Franky. Actual vice captains like Beckman are explicitly addressed as such.
Are you using a gag moment to justify his supposed superiority?
Ok we can take it as it is and say members like Sanji and Nami love abusing/ disrespecting the captain.
That's some quality vice-captain material right there bro.
Ok we can take it as it is and say members like Sanji and Nami love abusing/ disrespecting the captain.
That's some quality vice-captain material right there bro.
Look Zolo listening to Sanji and letting Luffy go...
Zoro is the emotional and rational pillar of the crew.
What i mean is that he can bring the others to focus when they are overly emotional and point out the key points and bring back rationality.
This has been a pretty consistent point throughout the journey, and in that sense, he makes most sense.
Sanji is more the wildcard, and Jinbe will be the key strategist and advisor.
What i mean is that he can bring the others to focus when they are overly emotional and point out the key points and bring back rationality.
This has been a pretty consistent point throughout the journey, and in that sense, he makes most sense.
Sanji is more the wildcard, and Jinbe will be the key strategist and advisor.
I agree Zoro has served the vice captain role more than anyone in the story so far, perhaps i phrased my question wrong but it wasn't about who was the vice captain right now, it was now that Jinbe has became part of the crew will he basically take over that role from Zoro?
I don't think Zoro could have got the crew out of whole cake island or gotten Big Mom of the Sunny the same way that Jinbe did and the way he took command after Luffy entered the Mirror world is the reason the crew survived.
so if a situation like that occurs again and Luffy isn't around, who basically takes command from now on Zoro or Jinbe? that was the question i was really trying to ask lol
I don't think Zoro could have got the crew out of whole cake island or gotten Big Mom of the Sunny the same way that Jinbe did and the way he took command after Luffy entered the Mirror world is the reason the crew survived.
so if a situation like that occurs again and Luffy isn't around, who basically takes command from now on Zoro or Jinbe? that was the question i was really trying to ask lol
The closest answer Oda/databooks has given to us is that Zoro is "like a Vice Captain" and Nami is "the Internal Captain"... Something along those lines...
So yeah, I won't stick to any other head canons... There's no official Vice Captain and it's obvious since Luffy established his crew unorganized...
So yeah, I won't stick to any other head canons... There's no official Vice Captain and it's obvious since Luffy established his crew unorganized...
How some still in doubt that who is VC?
It's zoro.
Based on role, he is the only sh along side Luffy who has primrary role related to fighting.
He is the only SHs along with Luffy, whose dream is related to strength
Many times in absence of Luffy, he acted like VC.
He was first to join and manga indirectly referred zoro as VC through various other characters which imply that Oda sees him as such
Even VC and databook referred him so.
Yes jinbei has more experience but that doesn't make him qualified to become VC. Oda won't change crew dynamics and role after 20 years because some salty fans want so...
It's zoro.Based on role, he is the only sh along side Luffy who has primrary role related to fighting.
He is the only SHs along with Luffy, whose dream is related to strength
Many times in absence of Luffy, he acted like VC.
He was first to join and manga indirectly referred zoro as VC through various other characters which imply that Oda sees him as such
Even VC and databook referred him so.
Yes jinbei has more experience but that doesn't make him qualified to become VC. Oda won't change crew dynamics and role after 20 years because some salty fans want so...