Work on his character for one and show how VC would act like more since lately being honest he been background in not doing much since flashback. Sanji and Jimbei been making most of the calls in looking like VC honestly. Not saying that as troll hate, but honestly he hasn't done much as many thought he would do. Feel like with Luffy you can have multiple VCs though given his freedom of anyone taking charge except for Captain position. He doesn't mind who leads crew when he isn't around as he give leadership to Sanji, Jimbei, Zoro, Nami, and so on many tasks.
Questions & Mysteries Straw Hat Vice Captain
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With all due respect what you just stated has no basis in the OP world. Show me one crew with more than 1 vice captain. Even Shanks crew the one that Luffy wants to surpass has 1 vice captain.
We are in wano where Zoro stated that too many captain will crush the ship or something to that effect. If you have multiple vice captains, then how will they listen to each other at crucial situations
Also, please show evidence of vice captain conduct in the manga that Zoro has not shown/doesn't possess. What exactly does he need to improve on for you to state he is a qualified vice captain.
We are in wano where Zoro stated that too many captain will crush the ship or something to that effect. If you have multiple vice captains, then how will they listen to each other at crucial situations
Also, please show evidence of vice captain conduct in the manga that Zoro has not shown/doesn't possess. What exactly does he need to improve on for you to state he is a qualified vice captain.
In databook it is so.
In the manga Barto said it is so. Who exactly do you think wrote those words if not Oda?
another thing is that, @Jo_Ndule, you dont even believe in the boxes, you are one who says Mihawk is not the wss and stronger than all swordsmen. So even if Oda made the box saying oro is VC you probably wouldn't believe it anyway.
In the manga Barto said it is so. Who exactly do you think wrote those words if not Oda?
another thing is that, @Jo_Ndule, you dont even believe in the boxes, you are one who says Mihawk is not the wss and stronger than all swordsmen. So even if Oda made the box saying oro is VC you probably wouldn't believe it anyway.
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Zoro has never had an introbox as an SH. The only one he ever had was the Wano introbox where he was introduced as ronin, Zorojuro iirc.
We will have to wait for his official SH introbox similar to Jinbei's SH helmsman introbox.
Ok, I just have 1 question for you. Other than people, there was never an introbox etc that introduced prime WB as equal to Roger, however, I am 100% sure that you believe he is due to the words from people like Buggy etc.
Do you believe prime WB = Roger? If yes why? If the words of characters in the verse are enough to adequately state WB = Roger, how come Barto's words are not enough to adequately state Zoro = SH vc.
You probalby also believe WB has the power to destroy the world based on Sengoku's words. Why do you believe it when there was no intro box stating it. What is special about Sengoku's words that made you believe it but not Barto's words about Zoro = SH vc?
We can't have it both ways, either the words of characters in OPverse have weight to them and can be taken as fact or they don't.
There is no evidence in the manga that Luffy doesn't see Zoro as vc likewise there is also no evidence that he does. This is just a conjecture on your part.
Zoro has never had an introbox as an SH. The only one he ever had was the Wano introbox where he was introduced as ronin, Zorojuro iirc.
We will have to wait for his official SH introbox similar to Jinbei's SH helmsman introbox.
Ok, I just have 1 question for you. Other than people, there was never an introbox etc that introduced prime WB as equal to Roger, however, I am 100% sure that you believe he is due to the words from people like Buggy etc.
Do you believe prime WB = Roger? If yes why? If the words of characters in the verse are enough to adequately state WB = Roger, how come Barto's words are not enough to adequately state Zoro = SH vc.
You probalby also believe WB has the power to destroy the world based on Sengoku's words. Why do you believe it when there was no intro box stating it. What is special about Sengoku's words that made you believe it but not Barto's words about Zoro = SH vc?
We can't have it both ways, either the words of characters in OPverse have weight to them and can be taken as fact or they don't.
There is no evidence in the manga that Luffy doesn't see Zoro as vc likewise there is also no evidence that he does. This is just a conjecture on your part.
I have a question that I would like to pose to those who believe Sanji is the vc.
Are there any panels in the manga where Luffy is not there, Zoro is there and Sanji is the one that calls the shots i.e commanding the SH, delegating tasks to them etc? Am not refering to Sanji advising the crew on what is the best way forward. For example Sanji commanding Zoro to go fish, Nami to go fetch condiments, Usopp to cut vegetables etc.
Reason am bringing this up is cause there is a big difference between offering advice and actually commanding people to do your bidding.
A subordinate can advise the superior, however, it is the superior prerogative to execute tasks based on the advice given.
When it comes to Zoro, we have seen him commanding the SH, Sanji included to do what he wants whether they wanted to or not.
The above are examples of Zoro commanding SH and also disregarding advise.
What I want to know is if there is any point in the manga where Sanji commanded Zoro to do something and the rest of the SH when Luffy is not there. Also are there evidence in the manga where Sanji disregarded Zoro's advise and did whatever he wanted without regard for consequences. I know more about Zoro's feats than Sanji's feats which is why I am posing this question to you guys who know more about Sanji's feats ie those who believe he is the vc or makes a better vc
Are there any panels in the manga where Luffy is not there, Zoro is there and Sanji is the one that calls the shots i.e commanding the SH, delegating tasks to them etc? Am not refering to Sanji advising the crew on what is the best way forward. For example Sanji commanding Zoro to go fish, Nami to go fetch condiments, Usopp to cut vegetables etc.
Reason am bringing this up is cause there is a big difference between offering advice and actually commanding people to do your bidding.
A subordinate can advise the superior, however, it is the superior prerogative to execute tasks based on the advice given.
- Luffy in W7 choose to listen to Zoro when Zoro said he can't accept Usopp without an apology.
- Luffy in Zou refused to listen to Zoro when Zoro said he should leave Sanji
- Luffy commanded Zoro to save Smoker despite Zoro not wanting to do so.
When it comes to Zoro, we have seen him commanding the SH, Sanji included to do what he wants whether they wanted to or not.
- In TB, Zoro commanded the SH to follow his plan, including Sanji
- Zoro commanding SH in Wano at the flower capital, including Sanji
- In Wano, Zoro decided to go against Sanji's advice and attacked Orochi.
The above are examples of Zoro commanding SH and also disregarding advise.
What I want to know is if there is any point in the manga where Sanji commanded Zoro to do something and the rest of the SH when Luffy is not there. Also are there evidence in the manga where Sanji disregarded Zoro's advise and did whatever he wanted without regard for consequences. I know more about Zoro's feats than Sanji's feats which is why I am posing this question to you guys who know more about Sanji's feats ie those who believe he is the vc or makes a better vc
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