Never said it’s based on nothing, but people are so focused on the sword that they ignore the man behind it. A sword is useless if you aren’t strong enough.
No, not like Kaido. It doesn’t matter if the sword was used to injure Kaido. Zoro is not strong enough to scratch Kaido, let alone critically damage him. Entering Wano, Luffy was far stronger than Zoro. He hopped in his strongest form and went all out on Kaido and did nothing, and got one-shot for his trouble. Didn’t even lay a scratch on him. Oden was presumably even stronger and only managed to give him that scar.
Zoro is not now, nor will he be at any point in the arc, as strong as Luffy was in that moment. Luffy has to learn beyond-advanced CoA to fight Kaido. Zoro is simply not strong enough to fight him, sword or not. Zoro’s strength matters.
Never said it’s based on nothing, but people are so focused on the sword that they ignore the man behind it. A sword is useless if you aren’t strong enough.
No, not like Kaido. It doesn’t matter if the sword was used to injure Kaido. Zoro is not strong enough to scratch Kaido, let alone critically damage him. Entering Wano, Luffy was far stronger than Zoro. He hopped in his strongest form and went all out on Kaido and did nothing, and got one-shot for his trouble. Didn’t even lay a scratch on him. Oden was presumably even stronger and only managed to give him that scar.
Zoro is not now, nor will he be at any point in the arc, as strong as Luffy was in that moment. Luffy has to learn beyond-advanced CoA to fight Kaido. Zoro is simply not strong enough to fight him, sword or not. Zoro’s strength matters.
No, it’s not an opinion. That’s actually a fact. Zoro is much weaker than Luffy was. I never said that Zoro’s strength doesn’t matter, my point was that it does, which is why he can’t touch Kaido.
No, it’s not an opinion. That’s actually a fact. Zoro is much weaker than Luffy was. I never said that Zoro’s strength doesn’t matter, my point was that it does, which is why he can’t touch Kaido.
Thats not a fact at all. Again thats your opinion. The scabbards fought kaido and survived and hes above them imo. Killers fought kaido and weve seen what happened there. You can keep crying about it but theres loads pointing to it.
Thats not a fact at all. Again thats your opinion. The scabbards fought kaido and survived and hes above them imo. Killers fought kaido and weve seen what happened there. You can keep crying about it but theres loads pointing to it.
Not, it’s actually a fact. Zoro is much weaker than Luffy.
There is nothing pointing to Zoro injuring Kaido other than fanboyism. The guy hasn’t even fought a YC1 yet and people are putting him on a level higher than that to justify headcanons.
Not, it’s actually a fact. Zoro is much weaker than Luffy.
There is nothing pointing to Zoro injuring Kaido other than fanboyism. The guy hasn’t even fought a YC1 yet and people are putting him on a level higher than that to justify headcanons.
Five reasons why Zoro will defeat Kaido or at least be involved in the Final Kaido fight :
He's based on the character Ryuma from one of Oda's old one-shots Monsters. In this one-shot, Ryuma killed a dragon, Kaido is a dragon.
Zoro was given the only sword that's ever wounded Kaido.
Wano Kuni is a samurai arc, Zoro is the main swordsman in One Piece, this is his arc.
Princess and Dragon, There are many stories and fairy tales of brave knights killing Dragons and saving the Princess. In One piece Zoro could be the brave Knight who kills the dragon and saves the princess Hiyori (he's the only SH crew member who has a relationship with her and has basically spent the entire arc with her)
Zoro's EoS opponent is Mihawk who's a top tier fighter in the verse, he needs to start fighting top tier characters if he ever wants to surpass Mihawk. What better time is there to do this than now? We have two main villains and both are Yonko's, one for Zoro and the other for Luffy.
The reason people don't want Zoro to beat Kaido is because they don't want Zoro to get all the shine.
Remember people who said zoro vs king is impossible and now we are talking about zoro vs kaido lol ! Please be careful when you are talking about zoro and "don't speak ill " :cheers:
No he won't. Luffy always fights the strongest opponent and it looks like it'll be Luffy, Law and Kidd fighting him in a 3v1 - in all likelihood they'll wear Kaido down and eventually it'll be Luffy vs Kaido 1v1
Zoro always fights the second strongest enemy, which is either King or Queen; most likely the former. He's a swordsman, or at least wields a sword, so this makes sense. Kaido doesn't fit that profile
Good point here, but the only time Luffy didn’t fight the arc’s strongest villain was when Zoro (in his first arc and the only other time we got any backstory on him) beat Morgan way back when. A weak comparison, I know, but there is precedent involving the combatant of the Straw Hats playing a bigger part in a villain’s downfall than the captain.
Though you can't compare both situations especially difference of both arcs. It's about literally damaging and killing/defeating a Yonko. Oda not gonna wreck power scaling and have Zoro with his bad fight resume in this arc to someone defeating a Yonko. Luffy is strongest overall as captain so doesn't make sense for Zoro along to surpassed Oden's lvl in small amount of time too.
Plot direction has him facing Orochi more than wanting Kaido. So doubt it head like that along Zoro trust Luffy to fight his own battles and would look wrong him needing saving or help with him if he can't stand as his own.
Didn't Oden uses 2 swords for that? Other being Snake Slayer? No necessarily name title go along with it. Plus if Oden needed 2 blades for it, Zoro using Enma to hurt him would be BS as he basically surpassed him in small amount of time and plus his fight record as of late hasn't been too good to see progression he can even fight Kaido.
Though you can't compare both situations especially difference of both arcs. It's about literally damaging and killing/defeating a Yonko. Oda not gonna wreck power scaling and have Zoro with his bad fight resume in this arc to someone defeating a Yonko. Luffy is strongest overall as captain so doesn't make sense for Zoro along to surpassed Oden's lvl in small amount of time too.
Plot direction has him facing Orochi more than wanting Kaido. So doubt it head like that along Zoro trust Luffy to fight his own battles and would look wrong him needing saving or help with him if he can't stand as his own.
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Didn't Oden uses 2 swords for that? Other being Snake Slayer? No necessarily name title go along with it. Plus if Oden needed 2 blades for it, Zoro using Enma to hurt him would be BS as he basically surpassed him in small amount of time and plus his fight record as of late hasn't been too good to see progression he can even fight Kaido.
You can compare both
Same writing style, different characters.
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These are high hopes:
Zoro vs King/kaido : sanji vs katakuri expectations
Zoro will damage/kill kaido : Sanji will K.O BM with the cake.,( Brook and Luffy will beat BM)
Zoro will get many 1 vs 1 Ws : Sanji vs X
Zoro has advanced CoA: Sanji has FS theories/fanfictions
Zoro is commander level without PU : Sanji can fight and beat one without PU
These are similar (even tho characters have different personalities):
Hiyori: playing as Pudding /Reiju/ *Niji (handing a PU to a strawhat)
Oden : Judge * both betrayed
Enma : Raid suit
Yasu : Pound
Shimotsuki : Vinsmoke
The only difference is that wano will have conclusive fights.
Stop making same mistakes as Sanji fans did in 2016/17 during WCi
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You can compare both
Same writing style, different characters.
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These are high hopes:
Zoro vs King/kaido : sanji vs katakuri expectations
Zoro will damage/kill kaido : Sanji will K.O BM with the cake.,( Brook and Luffy will beat BM)
Zoro will get many 1 vs 1 Ws : Sanji vs X
Zoro has advanced CoA: Sanji has FS theories/fanfictions
Zoro is commander level without PU : Sanji can fight and beat one without PU
These are similar (even tho characters have different personalities):
Hiyori: playing as Pudding /Reiju/ *Niji (handing a PU to a strawhat)
Oden : Judge * both betrayed
Enma : Raid suit
Yasu : Pound
Shimotsuki : Vinsmoke
The only difference is that wano will have conclusive fights.
Honestly who knows at this point.
This arc is gonna be unpredictable as it goes but I honestly think that Zoro's most likely gonna give Kaido a wound and Luffy finishing him.
What about BM?
I personally think she's gonna leave Wano because I think something's gonna happen in WCI like Blackbeard taking BM's territory so BM has to withdraw and go to WCI or Katakuri dies idk.
Dont you guys bash Sanji when trying to hype Zoro? Don't do it then as we don't mind if you enjoy Zoro, but dont bash other characters along overhyping him to non-canon lvl as well upset on canon criticism at times. He isn't perfect character, he has flaws.
Dont you guys bash Sanji when trying to hype Zoro? Don't do it then as don't mind olif you enjoy Zoro, but dont bash other characters along overhyping him to non-canon lvl as well upset on canon criticism at times. He isn't perfect character, he has flaws.
Because Sanji is not Zoro, we don't care about him here. And don't put me in the same bracket because I never bashed sanji, I only care about Zoro and Luffy, so lol.
Making some jokes maybe but i am not like you guys who come to every thread related to zoro and talk about dumb things like fainting, yeti cool, nailed, sleeping, fucking, xeno or homophobic comments. But sanji fans like you are different, we didn't forget Oj members! 99% of your post in OJ was about bashing Zoro, little bit ironic coming from you. You have 8 messages and already half of them about zoro lol. but hey don't talk bad about sanji
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