Future Events The strongest swordsman in history vs the strongest swordsman of today
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The idea that a kokuto inherently makes you stronger is pure headcanon
Shusui was a mid sword
even enma, which was the same rank as it, had better feats. That's not even considering supreme grade swords that aren't kokuto.
Nusjuro sits at the top of the world
take it up with Oda
Shusui was a mid sword
even enma, which was the same rank as it, had better feats. That's not even considering supreme grade swords that aren't kokuto.
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Nusjuro sits at the top of the world
take it up with Oda
Enma seemed to be the better sword. Unleashing its power helped Zoro cut Kaido and awaken ACoC. Shusui didn't do that for Zoro.
While we can speculate on the possible benefits of a black blade, if we look strictly at the canon, the only known benefit is that by turning a blade black, you improve its grade.
There is nothing that suggests a black blade is inherently above a normal blade. There is already a grading system for blades and it has nothing to do with whether or not a blade is black.
If Nusjuro has a supreme grade blade, or perhaps a blade is even beyond supreme grade, then it wouldn't matter if it is black or not. Blackening is simply the way in which characters with weaker swords can make their swords stronger.
Nusjuro has been alive likely for centuries. He is likely one of the wealthiest men in the world, only surpassed by Imu. His power and resources are near unlimited.
He could easily have a weapon that surpasses the supreme grade blades. Especially if he is from the void century.
While we can speculate on the possible benefits of a black blade, if we look strictly at the canon, the only known benefit is that by turning a blade black, you improve its grade.
There is nothing that suggests a black blade is inherently above a normal blade. There is already a grading system for blades and it has nothing to do with whether or not a blade is black.
If Nusjuro has a supreme grade blade, or perhaps a blade is even beyond supreme grade, then it wouldn't matter if it is black or not. Blackening is simply the way in which characters with weaker swords can make their swords stronger.
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Nusjuro has been alive likely for centuries. He is likely one of the wealthiest men in the world, only surpassed by Imu. His power and resources are near unlimited.
He could easily have a weapon that surpasses the supreme grade blades. Especially if he is from the void century.
It was literally said Black blade are nigh indestructible, Enma is a cursed sword it's zoro points for taming it , rest would have died.
Shusui isn't cursed and made attacks inherently stronger than previous zoro.
Stronger than blade more punch it packs it's that easy.
Enma sucked more and did more damage where shusui did damage without sucking out more. Learn the difference.
We need to stop acting enma is an upgrade instead it's nerf to zoro during the battle.
Shusui isn't cursed and made attacks inherently stronger than previous zoro.
Stronger than blade more punch it packs it's that easy.
Enma sucked more and did more damage where shusui did damage without sucking out more. Learn the difference.
We need to stop acting enma is an upgrade instead it's nerf to zoro during the battle.
Strongest swordsman in history and strongest swordsman of today are one and the same person - Hawkeyes Dracule.
A swordsman incapable of forging his sword into the strongest weapon in the world doesn't stand a chance.
Venus is strong, but he is not even top 3 of all times. Zoro>Mihawk>Ryuma>Shiryu>Venus.
And that is being generous as Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks and Rocks could be stronger than Venus.
A swordsman incapable of forging his sword into the strongest weapon in the world doesn't stand a chance.
Venus is strong, but he is not even top 3 of all times. Zoro>Mihawk>Ryuma>Shiryu>Venus.
And that is being generous as Roger, Rayleigh, Shanks and Rocks could be stronger than Venus.
I guess because narratively they can’t wrap their heads on how to predict EOS for the straw hats and make it make sense, who is Zoro’s EOS opponent; how would it fit narratively with the events of the last war with Imu as the final villain.
I want to hear your thoughts on that, if you think Mihawk is the final villain; how do you think it’ll work with that context?
for me I’m combining both concepts; Mihawk is the final fight but he will be fighting for the WG but not as a Shichibukai but it’ll be revealed he was born a celestial dragon of the Nerona family, relinquished his status to descend the blue seas in search for strong swordsmen, eventually becoming the WSS. He’ll return to Mareijoa right before the final war, his family will reject him initially stating that they don’t need him as S-Hawk is an improved version of himself, Mihawk challenges adult S-Hawk and will be overwhelmed initially but eventually gets a haki bloom surpassing his limits and will be reinstated as a celestial dragon and that’s how he ends up Zoro’s EOS opponent; otherwise unfortunately it’ll be as op said here
I totally agree but I don’t think that Mihawk is currently stronger than Roger and Rocks, but will eventually get stronger than them
I want to hear your thoughts on that, if you think Mihawk is the final villain; how do you think it’ll work with that context?
for me I’m combining both concepts; Mihawk is the final fight but he will be fighting for the WG but not as a Shichibukai but it’ll be revealed he was born a celestial dragon of the Nerona family, relinquished his status to descend the blue seas in search for strong swordsmen, eventually becoming the WSS. He’ll return to Mareijoa right before the final war, his family will reject him initially stating that they don’t need him as S-Hawk is an improved version of himself, Mihawk challenges adult S-Hawk and will be overwhelmed initially but eventually gets a haki bloom surpassing his limits and will be reinstated as a celestial dragon and that’s how he ends up Zoro’s EOS opponent; otherwise unfortunately it’ll be as op said here
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I totally agree but I don’t think that Mihawk is currently stronger than Roger and Rocks, but will eventually get stronger than them
