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You don't change your personality over night.

She didn't leave Big Mom after that -- but Sanji left Judge.
She's still relying on Big Mom while imprisoned. - Sanji doesn't willingly rely on Judge.

She has not shown massive change. Just infatuation that made her 'see the light,' and save the only person to show her kindness.

Pudding isn't in love. She's infatuated with the first person to be nice. She's a silly little girl who has severe mental instability trying to get with the first nice guy after emotionally abusing him and manipulating him out of his first kiss.

That is not a healthy relationship.
Then she had the one fruit that makes her an unreliable narrator should they ever argue.
Unless she shows massive change, she is not fit to be with him.
Great points never understood why people like Sanpu .
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I would be surprised if Gaban doesn't have CoC - being equals to Roger and Rayleigh without CoC would be wild. I personaly think every Top Tier should have CoC, it should be standard at that level. How can some YC's have CoC, but Top Tiers like Admirals so far not confirmed? Makes no sense to me.
I think CoC are the ones who have kingly ambition .

Akainu definitely will have one I think . But Fuji and GreenBull I highly doubt it they just follow orders .

The big question is what kingly ambition Sanhas ? His final ambition is just to find all blue and possibly open restaurant . He had no desire to rule or become strongest . This is one point I feel it’s possible he won’t attain CoC.

But question comes here Katakuri and King have as well yet they were subordinates . I just never understood why some character possess it and others like Admirals don’t.
 
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Fuji and GreenBull I highly doubt it they just follow orders
Fuji just follow orders ?

Akainu would be glad to hear that

For me all admirals will have COC, they all have their own justice and path

He had no desire to rule or become strongest
Oda can find any reasons he wants to justify COC
Funding all blue, discovering a secret of this world, being the chef and « commander » of his restaurant etc etc

I’m cool with Sanji having COC and I’m cool with him without it. His character doesn’t need that

Let’s see if Gaban has it or not, given the hyped he received it’s not impossible at all
 
I think CoC are the ones who have kingly ambition .
No. Come on man, this was disproved 100000 times already. Characters don’t need a big dream or be an actual leader to have it.

Following orders is not a counter argument, Rayleigh, Zoro, Katakuri etc etc all are following orders from someone, yet they have it.

Strong characters, especially the Top guys should have it. How is that not „Kingly“ being in the Top Tier class in the whole world. Yet some YC‘s have it…shit makes no sense.

Admirals should have it, they are the strongest force of the WG, yet they don’t have CoC? That is simply dumb.

But it is almost too late now to reveal that they do have it. It would feel really weird, that they would hide it after all that time. Unless Oda would come up with a explanation why they were not allowed to use it, but it mind be a dumb last second ass pull explanation. Will see.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
No. Come on man, this was disproved 100000 times already. Characters don’t need a big dream or be an actual leader to have it.

Following orders is not a counter argument, Rayleigh, Zoro, Katakuri etc etc all are following orders from someone, yet they have it.

Strong characters, especially the Top guys should have it. How is that not „Kingly“ being in the Top Tier class in the whole world. Yet some YC‘s have it…shit makes no sense.

Admirals should have it, they are the strongest force of the WG, yet they don’t have CoC? That is simply dumb.

But it is almost too late now to reveal that they do have it. It would feel really weird, that they would hide it after all that time. Unless Oda would come up with a explanation why they were not allowed to use it, but it mind be a dumb last second ass pull explanation. Will see.
Every real top tiers should have it
To become that strong you need a drive and a resolve thus COC
 
Every real top tiers should have it
To become that strong you need a drive and a resolve thus COC
Imagine a Prime Gaban rocking up to Doflamingo and just rocking his shit back to Marijoa in half a second but the flamingo is the one with COC and not Gaban. "Kingly Ambition" isn't saving him or his lackies from getting bent, whose will is getting imposed then?, it's just silly. At that point it's just glorified hard staring.
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RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Imagine a Prime Gaban rocking up to Doflamingo and just rocking his shit back to Marijoa in half a second but the flamingo is the one with COC and not Gaban. "Kingly Ambition" isn't saving him or his lackies from getting bent, whose will is getting imposed then?, it's just silly. At that point it's just glorified hard staring.
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For me COC is more about potential than straight power level

Ace awakened his COC at 8 or 9
That doesn’t mean he could bully anyone without COC

But COC means you can be at the top of the world when you fully realized your potential

And for me Doffy didn’t realized his potential, the man preferred to stay hidden in DR for 20y playing the background character instead of taking things by himself.
Doffy and his crew could have been much more for me.

But yeah I think every top tiers, so guys who realized their potential and reached the top of the world should all have COC (except maybe few rare exceptions)
 
For me COC is more about potential than straight power level

Ace awakened his COC at 8 or 9
That doesn’t mean he could bully anyone without COC

But COC means you can be at the top of the world when you fully realized your potential

And for me Doffy didn’t realized his potential, the man preferred to stay hidden in DR for 20y playing the background character instead of taking things by himself.
Doffy and his crew could have been much more for me.

But yeah I think every top tiers, so guys who realized their potential and reached the top of the world should all have COC (except maybe few rare exceptions)
Which is why COC should have never been integrated into combat. Make it similar to the VOAT. The ability to draw people to your cause, motivate them, inspire them and leading them. There is a quote from a book that I read which to me encapsulates what COC should have been; "You do not follow me because I am the strongest. Pax is. You do not follow me because I am the brightest. Mustang is. You follow me because you do not know where you are going. I do.” To me this carries far more depth than, essentially, a pay to win version of armament.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Which is why COC should have never been integrated into combat. Make it similar to the VOAT. The ability to draw people to your cause, motivate them, inspire them and leading them. There is a quote from a book that I read which to me encapsulates what COC should have been; "You do not follow me because I am the strongest. Pax is. You do not follow me because I am the brightest. Mustang is. You follow me because you do not know where you are going. I do.” To me this carries far more depth than, essentially, a pay to win version of armament.
COC being something you’re born with was also so lame
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
For me COC is more about potential than straight power level

Ace awakened his COC at 8 or 9
That doesn’t mean he could bully anyone without COC

But COC means you can be at the top of the world when you fully realized your potential

And for me Doffy didn’t realized his potential, the man preferred to stay hidden in DR for 20y playing the background character instead of taking things by himself.
Doffy and his crew could have been much more for me.

But yeah I think every top tiers, so guys who realized their potential and reached the top of the world should all have COC (except maybe few rare exceptions)
All top tiers should have CoC. Some if not all even can have advanced version of this

Then, characters whose dream is to be on absolute peak should have highest form of CoC.

Ultimately it comes down to will power so a clear distinction to separate the above two classes as well.


And, that's why Sanji getting CoC matters alot.

Some fans do argue that it's fine if Sanji does not have CoC but tbh, it's not fine at all.

Haki system sucks and it's fuckn inconsistent but this is what we have in one piece and this is what oda will flex the most as "Haki triumphs all" is the narrative.

Haki gives oda room to do asspull as much he wants

Haki is symbol of potential and will to be on top so oda will keep on building upon it...

So it's absolute necessity for Sanji to have it when other top tiers are getting it. When kata and doffy got it.
 
For me COC is more about potential than straight power level

Ace awakened his COC at 8 or 9
That doesn’t mean he could bully anyone without COC

But COC means you can be at the top of the world when you fully realized your potential

And for me Doffy didn’t realized his potential, the man preferred to stay hidden in DR for 20y playing the background character instead of taking things by himself.
Doffy and his crew could have been much more for me.

But yeah I think every top tiers, so guys who realized their potential and reached the top of the world should all have COC (except maybe few rare exceptions)
It’s just being born with the power, not all top tiers will have CoC nor will all born with CoC be top tiers. It’s just another power people are born with.

Even the idea that “Haki conquers all” was just the ideology of a loser who never could conquer the world.
 
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