Fanclub The V̶i̶n̶s̶m̶o̶k̶e̶ Sanji FC: The Prince of love

[Reborn]

And you did obviously by listing mihawk feats and not leeched with titles and statements

So are you saying a title which whole world knows and which clearly says He's WSS and above all swordsmen is on par with a mere giant statement?? Lmao you gotta be kidding me

What so "leeching" about reevaluating where charcters stand with what is niw being established in the manga as opposed to establishing your stance of wonky power scaling variables.

The point is simple.. Sanji, Luffy, Zoro will always be near eachother if not equal or relative coming into each arc. Its nit leeching its using n established ceiling and rationalizing with hiw Oda has treated Zoro, Sanji, and Luffy in post time skip.

Because that's not backed by portrayal or feats...

What near equal are you arguing?

Show me what sanji did anywhere near Luffy's level. Heck, show me even any portrayal Sanji got that put him near Luffy?.

You have nothing lmao


You are projecting Sanji future ceiling on present and past

 

[kekaro]

So are you saying a title which whole world knows and which clearly says He's WSS and above all swordsmen is on par with a mere giant statement?? Lmao you gotta be kidding me


Because that's not backed by portrayal or feats...

What near equal are you arguing?

Show me what sanji did anywhere near Luffy's level. Heck, show me even any portrayal Sanji got that put him near Luffy?.

You have nothing lmao


You are projecting Sanji future ceiling on present and past

Just saying I read something about backed up by feats and found it funny

Didn't follow your guys discussion even

 

[Reborn]

Just saying I read something about backed up by feats and found it funny

Didn't follow your guys discussion even

Then why jumped in between when you didn't follow the argument lmao

Zoro future ceiling is not based on leeching off to Mihawk just because some random giant made a comment.

It's his dream which we all know going to be fulfilled so he's bound to be about Mihawk in future.

 

[BleakAsh]

Because that's not backed by portrayal or feats...

i read that as
"Because that is not backed by biased power scaling"

Reread my argument again it literally state how Oda has been treating the M3 and how its folows from Pre TS and how conveniently their ceiling is set relativistically after getting major Power Buffs just 2 arcs ago.

Narrative topples any interpretation of micro portrayal and feats.

 

[Reborn]

i read that as
"Because that is not backed by biased power scaling"

Reread my argument again it literally state how Oda has been treating the M3 and how its folows from Pre TS and how conveniently their ceiling is set relativistically after getting major Power Buffs just 2 arcs ago.

Narrative topples any interpretation of micro portrayal and feats.

Micro portrayal and feats? Which one piece are you reading because quite sure there is macro level difference in the current Luffy and Sanji in terms of portrayal and feats.

And, show me the narrative which says Sanji is close to Luffy? Show me the panel where narrator says Sanji is on par with Luffy. I will wait

You have Gaban close to Ray and Roger which is EoS ceiling of Sanji and not present one

 

[kekaro]

Then why jumped in between when you didn't follow the argument lmao

Zoro future ceiling is not based on leeching off to Mihawk just because some random giant made a comment.

It's his dream which we all know going to be fulfilled so he's bound to be about Mihawk in future.

And what's mihawk power level based around currently, feats or power scaling?

 

[Reborn]

And what's mihawk power level based around currently, feats or power scaling?

None

But he has portrayal to duel with shanks

WB calling their duels legendary and something which shook the grandline

Has 3.5 B bounty despite travelling solo until he joined CG and for most part his bounty was frozen


And, above all has WSS title which makes him above all Swordsmen.


And, he challenged Zoro - he will wait at his peak for him to come challenge him. And, it's Zoro's dream.



Now my question to you is....what portrayal sanji has or what feat sanji has or what narrative backing sanji has that put him on par with Luffy?

I will wait for your panels.

 

[BleakAsh]

Micro portrayal and feats? Which one piece are you reading because quite sure there is macro level difference in the current Luffy and Sanji in terms of portrayal and feats.

And, show me the narrative which says Sanji is close to Luffy? Show me the panel where narrator says Sanji is on par with Luffy. I will wait

You have Gaban close to Ray and Roger which is EoS ceiling of Sanji and not present one

Never said on Par, again to me personally its up for interpretation whether luffy is part of the portrayal, and as of now he is definitely superior to Sanji and Zoro until they get buffed again, coz narrtively speaking Luffy has reached his peak already he'll grow within hid abilities now, that's not the same with sanji and Zoro. Its reasonable to say that there is a visible gap FOR NOW between him and zoro and Sanji.. I still wouldn't be surprised if Sanji and Zoro get significant buffs soon.

But my point was specifically about Zoro and Sanji and how Gabban's portrayal is backwards compatible to Sanji and his performance in post Ts.. Where sanji was never far off of Zoro and Luffy starting TS and he grew within it like both Zoro and Luffy..both
All three of them conveniently got major PU's back to back in Wano solidifying the fact that sanji was never the odd one out even without oppetunities to display his caliber like Zoro and Luffy.

 

[kekaro]

None

Cool, that was my whole point, didn't say anything else

 

[Reborn]

Never said on Par, again to me personally its up for interpretation whether luffy is part of the portrayal, and as of now he is definitely superior to Sanji and Zoro until they get buffed again, coz narrtively speaking Luffy has reached his peak already he'll grow within hid abilities now, that's not the same with sanji and Zoro. Its reasonable to say that there is a visible gap FOR NOW between him and zoro and Sanji.. I still wouldn't be surprised if Sanji and Zoro get significant buffs soon.

But my point was specifically about Zoro and Sanji and how Gabban's portrayal is backwards compatible to Sanji and his performance in post Ts.. Where sanji was never far off of Zoro and Luffy starting TS and he grew within it like both Zoro and Luffy..both
All three of them conveniently got major PU's back to back in Wano solidifying the fact that sanji was never the odd one out even without oppetunities to display his caliber like Zoro and Luffy.

Panel of narrator putting at present sanji relativistic to Luffy post TS just like how we got for Gaban - Ray and Roger

 

[BleakAsh]

Panel of narrator putting at present sanji relativistic to Luffy post TS just like how we got for Gaban - Ray and Roger

The ceilings are backwards compatible with Luffy Zoro and Sanji generally but they don't always reflect the gap between them at current point in time due to obvious reasons.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Every feat, every debuff, and every handicap sanji has had throughout Post TS should be reevaluated.

Sanji vs Doffy

Sanji vs Vergo

Should be reanalysed by using the lense of the latest chapter..

Sanji's handicap in PH should be heavily emphasized, and he should be considered relativistic to Zoro coming into each Arc.

This chapter has proven that Sanji never gets oppetunities to flex his caliber enough.

Not needed. Oda already explained Sanji vs Vergo when the chapter came out. Sanjis body was literally so wrecked because he tanked an explosion face first without haki that a Nami punch almost had him completely out of commission. Vergo was just the straw that broke the camels back.

Doffy was also just significantly stronger than Sanji outright. Doffy was also tiers above Law as well and probably Luffy or Zoro if any of them fought Doffy outright instead of Luffy waiting for Law to suicide bomb himself to nerf Doffy to being barely above Luffy.

No need to reanalyze because people only use these for agenda.

 

[Hiragaro]

Don’t remember ever writing this
Something fishy here

It‘s like a drop in the ocean - hard to remember every shit you wrote

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

There's only one reason I never surpassed Goat on this site, and we all know why that is.

The only thing you've surpassed me in is writing top tier threads that not even I would think of.

 

[kekaro]

@BleakAsh @Reborn
Morj argued your points better than you guys and came to a better conclusion

 

[Reborn]

@BleakAsh @Reborn
Morj argued your points better than you guys and came to a better conclusion

Imagine quoting me for my own video lol

 

[kekaro]

Imagine quoting me for my own video lol

Your own video says Sanji will gap mihawk, thanks for that chief

 

[Reborn]

Your own video says Sanji will gap mihawk, thanks for that chief

Bruh how much free time you got lmao

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Bruh how much free time you got lmao

Way too many free time Lmao.

 

[kekaro]

Bruh how much free time you got lmao

My free time seemed just right before wonder what changed.
I guess i can use it to write eulogies about oden to use it better and ear n moeny of it