Controversial Wano is bad, and that is inexcusable.

#27
oda doesnt “plan” things out as much as you guys like to believe. He has said multiple times that he loves adding stuff to his story which then extends the arcs. He also said he changes his mind on stuff all the time

Wano is probably the biggest example of unfettered creativity. Too many characters and too many themes. Non cohesive and rushed because there was no way to satisfy everyone without making the arc a lot longer
I think what honestly bothered me were things he danced around and then...didnt go through with it. So ironically I wanted the arc to be slightly longer for specific things.

1. Lets bring back all of the exact members of the BMP that needed screentime and then not use them properly lol. If this is the end both crews, Oda could have drawn those sequences with a few of the bigger ones like with Peros

2. Lets hype up the idea that Kaido and BM have awakening, then never actually have them utilize it. Its a big reason peolle were disappointed with the fights. It felt like we needed at least 1-2 chapters more each

3. Why tease Kaido's background as Oni and then never do anything with it? King got more backstory on his lineage


This also just takes into account that if nothing else changed, Oda should have made the arc 20 chapters longer for the better to at least close out story arcs. Same thing sort of happened on Egghead...
 
#29
Rewrite the arc to be only 90 chapters

I’d cut the Scabbards down to 5
No big mom
save that for Elbaf
More Expansion on the Oniwabanshu and Flying 6. More Sanji Judge Queen scenes.
Zoro uses Nidai kitetsu
Keep Koushiro the evil swordsman Evil and defeated by Act 2’s end.

the prison mines mini arc will be much shorter.
no Apoo vs Luffy
Apoo vs Brooke
King vs Zoro is fine but will be longer
Kaidos backstory right before final Luffy v Kaido face-off.
Kanjuro is akin to Deidara x Sai and very dangerous. Main opponent for Chopper, Usopp and Nami.

Orochi killed by Kiku.
No Gear 5 Nika but just regular Awakening and Ryuou Advanced Armanent no Conquerors Coating.
Kidd and Law assist against Kaido.
 
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#35
This sentiment or criticism has been repeated and stated many many times. It’s fine to think that he spent too much time on those characters, but it’s still just your opinion.

its not a perfect arc, but a lot of people enjoyed it to the point that the arc itself blew the series up both for the manga and anime. And you say yourself enjoyed parts of it.

Doesn’t sound like a bad arc to me based off that ^
 
#36
It has its issues. Lots of thing I didn't like that I mention in other threads.
I more or less agree with your points although I don't seem to hate it as much as you do.

I also think Wano >> Egghead (worst post TS arc for me). But I am enjoying Elbaf so far.
 
#38
I think Hiyori and Yamato were the same character, but it was changed because it would imply that Kaido raped Toki or adopted Hiyori/Yamato and then try to control her through violence and starvation to be the next shogun after killing Orochi, which is too dark for a shonen, it would make much more sense that Hiyori/Yamato liked Zoro at first glance because she would remember Zoro's uncle or whatever ancestor that guy from the cave was.
 
#39
which is too dark for a shonen
But those things did happen in canon.
Hiyori prostituted herself at Orochi's court.
And Yamato was controlled through violence, starvation, and incarceration.
The two of them don't need to be the same character unless you rewrite Yamato's Oden obsession. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to have Kaido break Oden's daughter only for her to still remain faithful to her father's memory. There is no character arc there, unless you make the Hiyori-Yamato hybrid be as extremist and racist as Hiyori is in the memes.
 
#40
FFS

Crying at one of the few users who engages in good-faith/constructive criticism?
There is no such things here. It's once again "Wano was bad because I think Wano was bad". With made up point to feed a confirmation bias that "Wano bad". It's the same BS generalizing made up truth affirmation as fucking... ALWAYS.
 
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