WG Support Thread

#81
In all seriousness, this thread is a great idea. I genuinely hope it can lead to helping those in need on here anytime they need it, even if it's just some emotional support/reassurance, somewhere for them to be able to vent and receive support (non-professionally ofc) too.

As someone who has spent MANY years in therapy and still does fortnightly, I cannot state the sheer importance of how much it helps too. Granted I'm just getting counseling again like I used to but having someone to talk to about anything and everything that bothers me helps in a way I can't even describe, when I've had to bottle up everything my entire life out of fear, prejudice, ignorance and such.

What happened with Jmena is something that must never be allowed to happen again and we can't truly prevent it either ofc but we can at least try to make a positive difference and that's what matters. Even if we can't stop someone from choosing to exit this life, the least we can do is try in the first place, reach out to them and give them somewhere to try and vent, especially before they can get professional help too ideally.

If it wasn't for the extremely patient, tolerant, understanding friends I've had past and present and also my former and current therapists, I do really wonder if I would have still carried on to this day, if I could have held out this long too. We need our support networks, we need each other, we can't handle and do everything alone and the more we try, the more we end up hurting ourselves and screwing ourselves over too as well as others close to us too by proxy/domino effect or w/e.

I was venting to @CoC: Color of Clowns about how I felt over Jmena and I was very candid about the anguish I'm suffering over it, which I do feel is partially my own fault too but I accept that and thats the only way I'm gonna learn to be a better, less self centered person and be there for others when they truly need me, just like when I need them too.

I was too late for Jmena, but I will not be for others, I can't lose anyone else like we lost him too. That will haunt me for lif, as long as Jmena already is going to as well. Of course I will eventually move on and accept whats happened, I'll work through the grief as we do, but I refuse to let myself ever completely let go/detach from what happened with him as I said in the tribute thread for him, I rather live with the pain of remembering he was here, that he was alive and one of us than let go of his memory for my own comfort/ease/conscience. For once, I truly embrace discomfort despite my own utter hatred of any kind of discomfort in life.
I feel really guilty about him too..i said some stuff altho while trolling...

Man i feel so damn guilty about it now
It might not have been serious but god...
 
#82
Maybe I’m not qualified enough but I can still speak from own experience.
I was depressive for 2 years and had some short thoughts about suicide (never tried it) and had lost my way.
It’s like a inner battle and expressing your true feelings can be impossible sometimes.
Everyone is an individual and needs a different "treatment".
I have not the one definitive answer.
There are many different ways, you need to know yourself first. Honesty to yourself is the first step (even if it’s hard).
Try therapy, talk with people who deserve you, go to the nature or something else. There a different ways as I said BUT don’t search for solutions which give you a momentary satisfaction like alcohol for example. Even if it’s painful without it for some people…
My faith in God and some family members helped me the most but this is not something for everyone so there are some beautiful quotes. They inspired me a lot









Never forget that you’re not weak, everyone has a unique beauty within the soul.
If you have nothing to live for, then keep walking and find a meaning.
Falling on your knees is not a bad thing as long as you can stand up again.
I pray that everyone will find their happiness
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Gorosei Informer

#83
I feel really guilty about him too..i said some stuff altho while trolling...

Man i feel so damn guilty about it now
It might not have been serious but god...
Aye, unfortunately we don't really know the impact of what we say and do unto others until its too late usually. Whether its causing them a mental breakdown to self harming or the worst case scenario as in Jmenas case ofc.

One of my exes was COVERED head to toe in self harm scars, well from shoulders down to ankles or so. She had been so emotionally/verbally/mentally destroyed by her family and others, that she took to cutting herself all over gradually and it took some gradual effort on my part at least to get her to stop doing it eventually too.

Shes doing much healthier now, much, much happier, living out her dreams and working in medical care as a nurse and such, so shes helping others now too. I havent spoken to her in years but I've looked her up and shes definitely doing MUCH better now, thats a clear sign as a lighthouse with a rave going on instead.

Seeing those scars though man, it was horrifying. For someone to be driven to that and at such a young age too, such a happy, cheerful, go lucky, genuinely kind, selfless, innocent, sweet etc person, it really made me feel broken inside for her. I may have done a lot of stupid, fucked up, hurtful things in the past to myself and others but moments like that, remind me that I'm not entirely a bad person and I can accomplish good things too.
 
#84
Guys this isn't funny. But really Suicide is never the answer.
I once tried to jump of 19th floor , sitting there for like 3 hours waiting cuz their was crowd below. I was waiting for it to get clear. To pass time , i masturbated and the post nut clarity helped me out of suicide.

Suicide isn't the answer. Clarity is ✨✨. Please talk to the certified people above mentioned.
dont do it too much man, u will get into a tough spot, from my experience i did anyway, it worked by getting rid of stress and anxiety but then the consequences came...Addiction :josad:
 
#86
I feel really guilty about him too..i said some stuff altho while trolling...

Man i feel so damn guilty about it now
It might not have been serious but god...
I feel guilty too, I also said things I'm not proud of. I'm glad we can collectively recognize that even though we can't see each other, we are still people who have feelings and insecurities. I'll try to be kinder and more aware of everybody's feelings from now on.
 
#89
Recently I was talking to a friend whose been battling depression for over 15 years. She’s also been in therapy for over 15 years. One piece of advice her therapist shared was to start complimenting herself for things she did during the day no matter how small. It’s been very helpful for her. An accomplishment could be anything from “I made my bed today” to “I cleaned out my inbox.” Hopefully this advice can help anyone who feels lost right now.
 
#90
I feel guilty too, I also said things I'm not proud of. I'm glad we can collectively recognize that even though we can't see each other, we are still people who have feelings and insecurities. I'll try to be kinder and more aware of everybody's feelings from now on.
Yeah same here...ill stop being as toxic as u was before..we never know on how bad we can hurt someone so...from now on ill be kinder
 
#93
l'd rather not share it. But it makes me unable to pursue my passions.
So, do you have any advice for me? Other than ''it gets better and if not you just didn't try hard enough''
What functionality gets inhibited the most, and what functionalities are left? Does it affect gross motor function, stopping you from being able to walk or doing sports? Or is it fine-motor function, when you're not able to write with a pen or draw etc? Can you tell about those?
 
#95
To be honest, only professionals, self-help books from leading psychotherapists and communication with people who have experienced this can help. People who have not experienced this can cause real pain in their attempts to achieve a positive attitude. Some people don't realize that during severe depression, it's sometimes impossible to even brush your teeth. Sometimes you don't wash your hair for days, weeks... Because you lie and look at one point. And when in such a state you see advice "you need to move, read what you are interested in, walk", it can lead to unfortunate results. First you need to help yourself. Heal yourself. Rehab is the next step.
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Statements such as 'you just have to try harder then everything gets better' are really negative and toxic.
Some peope try all the time and their lives still don't get better.
Please acknowledge these people's struggles too.

Don't give people the feeling that they're never doing enough or thatbad circumstances are their own fault.
It doesn't help.
By the way, the advice "think about people around you" is also toxic. It makes people feel selfish, but they are not.
 
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#96
great idea. hope this really helps people in a positive ways. All I ask for is this thread to be monitored strictly with more priority as this involves relatively sensitive topic.
Few weeks ago, I myself was in a dark mental state (not in a suicidal way though) and I'm not gonna lie my way out was heavy music and internet. Seeing some of the ridiculous arguments made here and taking somewhat part in it really uplifted me sometimes. Also while surfing the internet, I found this panel from Berserk and it helped me further in picking myself up and keep going stronger than ever.

what i've realized is, not every problems in your life can be discussed with your family/ friends. So, letting them out to the people who are here to discuss the fictional characters on a fictional story isn't really a bad idea. There is nothing more worse than bottling up the feelings inside.
 

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#97
I am pinning this thread so it's easily accessible. Still, if you feel like your concern deserves a separate topic, feel free to make a separate thread.
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To be honest, only professionals, self-help books from leading psychotherapists and communication with people who have experienced this can help. People who have not experienced this can cause real pain in their attempts to achieve a positive attitude. Some people don't realize that during severe depression, it's sometimes impossible to even brush your teeth. Sometimes you don't wash your hair for days, weeks... Because you lie and look at one point. And when in such a state you see advice "you need to move, read what you are interested in, walk", it can lead to unfortunate results. First you need to help yourself. Heal yourself. Rehab is the next step.
Nah, it actually helps—although not always. Sometimes, you just need someone to push you to move. People in this state often don't need expert advice. All they need is an ear to listen to their issues(sometimes rant) and offer a word of support.
 
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I am pinning this thread so it's easily accessible. Still, if you feel like your concern deserves a separate topic, feel free to make a separate thread.
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Nah, it actually helps—although not always. Sometimes, you just need someone to push you to move. People in this state often don't need expert advice. All they need is an ear to listen to their issues(sometimes rant) and offer a word of support.
I know what depression (severe depression) is by myself. Most advice from incompetent people is harmful.
Support is good. But advice should only be given by people who have experienced this. Or people who have at least read articles about how to deal with a depressed person. Even in this thread, there are already a few comments that can negatively affect a depressed person.
A depressed person ALWAYS needs a specialist. And not the one who will push him to action. You can't take action while you're sick. You can't act because you're fucking sick.
 
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Adam 🍎

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To be honest, only professionals, self-help books from leading psychotherapists and communication with people who have experienced this can help. People who have not experienced this can cause real pain in their attempts to achieve a positive attitude. Some people don't realize that during severe depression, it's sometimes impossible to even brush your teeth. Sometimes you don't wash your hair for days, weeks... Because you lie and look at one point. And when in such a state you see advice "you need to move, read what you are interested in, walk", it can lead to unfortunate results. First you need to help yourself. Heal yourself. Rehab is the next step.
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By the way, the advice "think about people around you" is also toxic. It makes people feel selfish, but they are not.
Depression is stagnation of the mind and soul. You overcome it by advancing forward in all aspects

You said it yourself, depression can lead to lack of self care and such, hence why almost all therapists i worked with recommend starting from there.

If you look good you feel good, it is undisputed fact. Working out is good for your body and mind.


And suicide is selfish act. I felt absolute shame after my attempt and to this day no one from my close family knows it.

My family worked their ass off to provide for me. Been there every single time i needed them. Dont want them to know what i did, they dont deserve it
 

Gol D. Roger

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I know what depression (severe depression) is by myself. Most advice from incompetent people is harmful.
I agree but these suggestions are often from people who have no clue what's going on in the victim's mind. You gotta hear and learn what's going on in their mind before you go on to give them suggestions. It doesn't always work, but most of the time, at least, one or two of our peers went through similar issues. Their advice can be extremely valuable even if they aren't professional.
 
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