Future Events What did Oda stall Zoro for?

[nik87]

Let's see if Zoro can go toe to toe with a top tier Lik-chan

Oda protecting him by not putting him against anyone not his level

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Let's see if Zoro can go toe to toe with a top tier Lik-chan

Oda protecting him by not putting him against anyone not his level

It's something Zoro did 7 sagas ago.

 

[Albino 👑]

When any other character does something “dumb” most people blame the character
When zoro does it suddenly isn’t his fault but oda/plot

 

[Buusatan94]

When any other character does something “dumb” most people blame the character
When zoro does it suddenly isn’t his fault but oda/plot

It's always the plot and Oda's fault anyway. Characters don't do anything more than what their writer make them do.

 

[Albino 👑]

It's always the plot and Oda's fault anyway. Characters don't do anything more than what their writer make them do.

Not liking oda putting characters in unfavorable situations or giving them character traits you don’t like is one thing
But acting like it doesn’t matter or somehow isn’t canon in story because of plot/oda is dumb

People are obviously free to not like how every aspect of a strory or character is written but doesn’t change the fact there are in verse reasons even if you don’t like them

 

[Djordje]

You have wild imagination with part when demon God appears saving Luffy and cutting all 5 Gorosei in half.

I would really like this to happen but sadly there isn't any moment in entire manga where Zoro heavily outshined Luffy against top tiers of that arc. Its Luffy show after all.

 

[Buusatan94]

Not liking oda putting characters in unfavorable situations or giving them character traits you don’t like is one thing
But acting like it doesn’t matter or somehow isn’t canon in story because of plot/oda is dumb

People are obviously free to not like how every aspect of a strory or character is written but doesn’t change the fact there are in verse reasons even if you don’t like them

That depends of how well-thought and built these unfavorable situations and character traits are done. The problem is that they are often done poorly, more often than not especially post-ts where many totally absurd situations happen clearly because Oda hadn't planned his thing well and/or found another way to explain or justify a situation.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

I have never seen people wank a character more than zoro fans do, holy shit.

It's normal tho. This is what Zoro's archetype intended to be, for people to praise & hype them.

Some archetype are for fun, other for sentimental, even some are blatantly be used for fanservice/ecchi talks.

 

[Albino 👑]

That depends of how well-thought and built these unfavorable situations and character traits are done. The problem is that they are often done poorly, more often than not especially post-ts where many totally absurd situations happen clearly because Oda hadn't planned his thing well and/or found another way to explain or justify a situation.

It being shitty writing doesn’t change the fact it was written and canon tho
I could complain day and night on oda’s treatment and handling of big mom. With him constantly putting her in situations where she for some reason or another can’t go all out. At the same time I gotta expect every moment is canon for better or worse. Me not liking it doesn’t change the fact it happened and how it happened

Complaining about sanji not beating Black Maria even tho he technically could based on his strength doesn’t make sense because it’s something bigger than power scaling. It’s one of Sanji’s character traits and again people are free to not like it or the fact he was put in that situation. Still happened tho

Zoro vs Lucci is straight up just zoro vs apoo 2.0.
On paper yes zoro is stronger than either but it doesn’t matter. In both situations he needed something to fully push him to realize the severity of the situation. Would it have been smarter and more helpful if he realized the whole time? Yes 100% but it is still a part of the character for better or worse

You can blame oda for giving them those traits or putting them in those situations knowing but it’s still part of the characters

 

[Rukusho]

Let's see if Zoro can go toe to toe with a top tier Lik-chan

Oda protecting him by not putting him against anyone not his level

Didn't Zoro go toe to toe with Kaido ? While nerfed? Prior to his PU? Prior to mastering Enma?

 

[RoronoaZorro]

It's always the plot and Oda's fault anyway. Characters don't do anything more than what their writer make them do.

Yeah. Characters already have their own set of abilities & personality.

It's Oda who suddenly (and often) make them underperform or do weird/stupid things, just to fit the storyline.

Like this Zoro Lucci situation.

 

[langitbarat]

Sorry guys, I will be that guy.

Lucci fought 2 people in Egghead, Luffy and Zoro.

Luffy finished it faster than Zoro.

Oda just want to tell the readers that if Luffy's powerlevel is 100, Zoro can't be 100.

 

[Cruxroux]

Let's see if Zoro can go toe to toe with a top tier Lik-chan

Oda protecting him by not putting him against anyone not his level

Oda protecting your boy by letting him use G5 straight of the bat lmao.
Let zoro use Ashura or KoH. Then we will talk.
Base Zoro >>>> Base Luffy.
G4 got negged by Kizaru with a Nameless Kick lmao.

 

[Rukusho]

Sorry guys, I will be that guy.

Lucci fought 2 people in Egghead, Luffy and Zoro.

Luffy finished it faster than Zoro.

Oda just want to tell the readers that if Luffy's powerlevel is 100, Zoro can't be 100.

I think you're right.

It's more like though if Luffy's G5 is 100 then Zoro's 2 sword style can't be 100.

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Sorry guys, I will be that guy.

Lucci fought 2 people in Egghead, Luffy and Zoro.

Luffy finished it faster than Zoro.

Oda just want to tell the readers that if Luffy's powerlevel is 100, Zoro can't be 100.

I'm going to use your shitty logic, but ignoring things that suit me, like you have done.

"Zoro has needed to use less attack and use less power"

 

[BigAmmi]

All of the strongest shp (luffy, zoro, jinbe and sanji) would have clap kizaru and saturn if they would have fight all together

So oda needed to split them and that made the zoro's, sanji's and jinbe's plotline in eh basically useless and boring

Peak writing as usual

 

[RZ.119]

So the other day it was Zoro's stronger than Luffy for "one shotting" Lucci, but also Luffy is an invincible god gary stue? Do you even hear yourself lol.
You know there's no need to try and justify zoro fans' near cultish obsession with a character? It's fine, everyone has a bias you guys are just on another level of meat riding that's all I'm saying

why are you generalizing Zoro fans into a common hivemind ? I've never in my life put Zoro above Luffy, besides you clearly seem to have a Zoro hateboner which you'll no doubt justify by saying the age old "I like Zoro but hate his fans".
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This is why i dont wank him anymore. Luffy is too OP now that is boring as hell.

Yup no real point even talking about him now

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Sorry guys, I will be that guy.

Lucci fought 2 people in Egghead, Luffy and Zoro.

Luffy finished it faster than Zoro.

Oda just want to tell the readers that if Luffy's powerlevel is 100, Zoro can't be 100.

If Usain Bolt runs 100 metre in 9.58 then Tyson Gay or Noah Lyles cant run in 9.58.

Yeah, so what? They are still faster than 99.99 % of all humans for the past 30.000 years.

 

[dimitrios]

why are you generalizing Zoro fans into a common hivemind ? I've never in my life put Zoro above Luffy, besides you clearly seem to have a Zoro hateboner which you'll no doubt justify by saying the age old "I like Zoro but hate his fans".
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Yup no real point even talking about him now

Unfortunately when you act like a hivemind, you get treated like one. Also, funny how you accuse me of generalizing then in that same breath try to box me into a weird stereotype lol. Don't worry man I'm not like the rest, I hate Zoro AND his fans because they're annoying on average.

 

[nik87]

Oda just want to tell the readers that if Luffy's powerlevel is 100, Zoro can't be 100.

He told you all that by making Luffy fail with 3 named moves in God Mode while Zoro succeeds with one move without God mode?