Which is...?
I mean... is Ryuma even strong?
He cut a dragon's head off, that's like cutting sea giants head off. Not very impressive.
He turned his sword black, but does that correlate with strength?
If anything, them being Zombie enhances their durablity/stamina/endurance.
Oars could fight after getting pummeled by the crew, only because he was a zombie. Same body only he can't feel pain but damage is the same.
He cut a dragon's head off, that's like cutting sea giants head off. Not very impressive.
He turned his sword black, but does that correlate with strength?
If anything, them being Zombie enhances their durablity/stamina/endurance.
Oars could fight after getting pummeled by the crew, only because he was a zombie. Same body only he can't feel pain but damage is the same.
You're assuming what being a zombie enhances. "Same body" is also farfetched unless a dead, rotten body is the same as a fresh, alive one. Sure, they don't feel pain, does it compensate the rest? (lacking their original personality and experience in battle, a fresh and alive body, etc.).
I don't think I would even put Ivankov in YC3. And he's above Moreley,
That's pretty bad.
And you somehow discount the ones we met that were trash.
The ones in little garden
The ones in Ennies Lobby
Oars Jr was a punching bag in marineford.
Luffy oneshot with g2 pistol the giant in the tournament.
even preTS Zolo and Sanji were throwing a giant like a ball in the Foxy crew.
And you somehow discount the ones we met that were trash.
The ones in little garden
The ones in Ennies Lobby
Oars Jr was a punching bag in marineford.
Luffy oneshot with g2 pistol the giant in the tournament.
even preTS Zolo and Sanji were throwing a giant like a ball in the Foxy crew.
Second, sure I discount the ones we met that were trash (a couple of your examples are a bit tricky, by the way: Luffy's G2 plus haki punch is strong while Hajrudin is a rookie; Oars Jr. was a punching bag because he faced an army plus Doflamingo and Moriah, but he's still a 550 million pirate; Dorry was tricked with a bomb and Zoro was about to cut his own leg to get away from the wax that had Brogy trapped). I discount them because I'm not saying that there aren't weak giants but that there are strong ones, hence why I won't lose my time with irrelevant examples.
Third, the proportion isn't bad in the slightest. We've had a very small number of representatives yet they include some strong individuals. The point I'm defending is that, at the end of the day, there are factual examples of strong giants so the Numbers aren't bound to be at Chopper's level "at best", as you stated. That's just a lie, a dishonest statement that ignores that giants can be strong no matter how you try to rebut it. The moment we have strong giants (and we do), the moment you can't assure anything about the Numbers's power level.