Questions & Mysteries What happened to Page 1?
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Well, to be fair, they don't look all retarded. We only have silhouettes but they look different, especially the slimmest one. They clearly are drinkers, not only according to Queen's words but their oni appearance.
On the other hand, it is never stated that Apoo is leading them. At best he's accompanying them according to what we know. They've all come to enjoy the banquet, basically. And I personally believe Apoo isn't a Number because that's how Oda tricks us: he makes us think the kids are referring to him, only to reveal a double page with those giant monsters we couldn't notice before.
On the other hand, it is never stated that Apoo is leading them. At best he's accompanying them according to what we know. They've all come to enjoy the banquet, basically. And I personally believe Apoo isn't a Number because that's how Oda tricks us: he makes us think the kids are referring to him, only to reveal a double page with those giant monsters we couldn't notice before.
Queen said that they have "Drinking problems" the stupid look can be bc they are drunk or smiling cz they can drunk at the party (Queen and King seem to have a little respect for them cuz we know they don't give a damn about headliners) Queen said he doesn't like having them around cuz they have Drinking problems if they were so low ranking but if they were low low rank he would have not gived a crap but like that seems like they have an higher status to me they are right below the calamities...
Doesn't change the fact that they are giant and Oda treats giants like weaklings.
I'm sorry, did I miss something? Where did they have respect for them?
Queen outright stated that he hated them
What do you mean don't give a damn?
Queen lets his headliners run the prison.
ok if they are bellow him either way, why would it change how he treats them then?
They were attending the banquet without anyone's notice. + They are giants, I imagine drunk giants can slam into buildings when they are drunk, maybe that's why Queen hates them?
I'm sorry, did I miss something? Where did they have respect for them?
Queen outright stated that he hated them
What do you mean don't give a damn?
Queen lets his headliners run the prison.
ok if they are bellow him either way, why would it change how he treats them then?
They were attending the banquet without anyone's notice. + They are giants, I imagine drunk giants can slam into buildings when they are drunk, maybe that's why Queen hates them?
Oh, I see.
Anyways, to his argument of "why use the suit against Page One instead of waiting for Queen", the answer is actually really simple:
If Sanji wants Usopp and Franky to make some changes, then the Raid Suit we saw isn't the power up he's expecting to use against the major threat. Simple as that.
Anyways, to his argument of "why use the suit against Page One instead of waiting for Queen", the answer is actually really simple:
If Sanji wants Usopp and Franky to make some changes, then the Raid Suit we saw isn't the power up he's expecting to use against the major threat. Simple as that.
That's a possibility too. While I think that Apoo and the giants arrived together, I have my doubts Apoo himself (and his crewmate) is a Number or that he's leading instead of accompanying them. We will see.
That's for sure, I even addressed it in a previous, more detailed post. But we will see if the changes end up being more than just design; for example to improve Diable Jambe.
That's for sure, I even addressed it in a previous, more detailed post. But we will see if the changes end up being more than just design; for example to improve Diable Jambe.
Sure, I would hope that average giant fodder army are > than normal fodder people army.
And was beaten by PreTS crew. Even when he was a zombie who couldn't feel pain.
I mean, yeah, cool. He's a big giant. That would probably mean he is stronger than normal fodder giant.
But Burgess is in his top 10 too.
Is he even a giant? Dude looks shorter than Smoothie.
I doubt that he's top 3, it looked like Betty was leading them.
And was beaten by PreTS crew. Even when he was a zombie who couldn't feel pain.
I mean, yeah, cool. He's a big giant. That would probably mean he is stronger than normal fodder giant.
But Burgess is in his top 10 too.
Is he even a giant? Dude looks shorter than Smoothie.
I doubt that he's top 3, it looked like Betty was leading them.
It isn't just about their strength regarding a normal fodder people army but Linlin's confidence on them as a significant asset to become Pirate King.
Zombie Ryuma was beaten by pretimeskip Zoro. Zombies can't be taken as evidence of anything.
Well, more specifically he's a giant with a fruit that makes him even bigger. And Burgess isn't a nobody, but he happened to fight Dragon's number 2 (and I personally believe he's one of the weakest out of the ten as of now considering his lack of fruit and how he was treated when asking for help).
Yes, he's a giant. Betty was leading the people because of her inspiration and role, but wouldn't make sense for Oda to explicitly address him as one of Dragon's monsters (alongside Sabo and Ivankov, commander of Grand Line) if he wasn't one of his top people too.
At the end of the day, the point is that we have all kind of power levels in this race, arguably reaching YC3 if not higher in Morley's case, and without theorizing how strong Saul was or Oars's strength when he was alive. That's not half bad considering the small number of members we've met so far.
Zombie Ryuma was beaten by pretimeskip Zoro. Zombies can't be taken as evidence of anything.
Well, more specifically he's a giant with a fruit that makes him even bigger. And Burgess isn't a nobody, but he happened to fight Dragon's number 2 (and I personally believe he's one of the weakest out of the ten as of now considering his lack of fruit and how he was treated when asking for help).
Yes, he's a giant. Betty was leading the people because of her inspiration and role, but wouldn't make sense for Oda to explicitly address him as one of Dragon's monsters (alongside Sabo and Ivankov, commander of Grand Line) if he wasn't one of his top people too.
At the end of the day, the point is that we have all kind of power levels in this race, arguably reaching YC3 if not higher in Morley's case, and without theorizing how strong Saul was or Oars's strength when he was alive. That's not half bad considering the small number of members we've met so far.
Which is...?
I mean... is Ryuma even strong?
He cut a dragon's head off, that's like cutting sea giants head off. Not very impressive.
He turned his sword black, but does that correlate with strength?
If anything, them being Zombie enhances their durablity/stamina/endurance.
Oars could fight after getting pummeled by the crew, only because he was a zombie. Same body only he can't feel pain but damage is the same.
well yeah...he's a big giant.
I don't think I would even put Ivankov in YC3. And he's above Moreley,
That's pretty bad.
And you somehow discount the ones we met that were trash.
The ones in little garden
The ones in Ennies Lobby
Oars Jr was a punching bag in marineford.
Luffy oneshot with g2 pistol the giant in the tournament.
even preTS Zolo and Sanji were throwing a giant like a ball in the Foxy crew.
I mean... is Ryuma even strong?
He cut a dragon's head off, that's like cutting sea giants head off. Not very impressive.
He turned his sword black, but does that correlate with strength?
If anything, them being Zombie enhances their durablity/stamina/endurance.
Oars could fight after getting pummeled by the crew, only because he was a zombie. Same body only he can't feel pain but damage is the same.
well yeah...he's a big giant.
I don't think I would even put Ivankov in YC3. And he's above Moreley,
That's pretty bad.
And you somehow discount the ones we met that were trash.
The ones in little garden
The ones in Ennies Lobby
Oars Jr was a punching bag in marineford.
Luffy oneshot with g2 pistol the giant in the tournament.
even preTS Zolo and Sanji were throwing a giant like a ball in the Foxy crew.
How did Sanji sneak attack when it was 1 vs 1?