Future Events What Sanji vs King means to Zoro future opponent and how it all connects to Luffy vs Katakuri

Why would he bother using base when G2 is so casual for him?
So Luffy has better reaction times, better mobility and can run his way out from the centre of an explosion but he is slower than Zoro.
Luffy is a goofy character and has many low showings because if he didn't One Piece would be 300 chapters shorter, but his high showings are far higher than Zoro.

G3 Pulverized Pica's head, and that was where Luffy aimed, if he aimed centre mass it would have pulverized a very large area. Zoro was in the middle of a named attack, his attacks don't suddenly become far less potent if he doesn't shout every single slash he needs to do. Slashing some rock in half is less impressive than turning it into dust, and requires less help from Kings punch.
Also Elephant gattling is stronger for AoE for obvious reasons and would have fodderized Pica very very easily, this was PIS.


He fought Katakuri for a long time in G2 or G3, anyone weaker than Katakuri who Luffy has fought with G2/G3 is irrelevant.
What? Doffy,Cracker beat the shit out of luffy. Luffy was getting his ass beat in base.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Huh you sound stupid bro i am sorry. Jenbei hasn't came across swordsman in 20 years of pirating and fighting. This is the most absurd shit. You guving Zoro fans a bad name now.

What do you mean can he stand more. Jenbei looked fine after BM hit him with sword and went on the fight a fleet of BM pirates. Who the hell said King couldn't cut them. Seriously you know a fight can go pass one hit right
Nothing stupid about it. Just dont think like a character from OP world and it will be clear.
There is no 20 year history about Jinbe. What hasnt been said, didnt happen.
Only what the author creates has happened, no more no less.

He took one slash and was cut, can he keep his hand after 3 slashes more? Unlikely.
Can he keep blocking Akainu and keep his hand? Unlikely. Catch my drift?
How will Sanji go past one hit which chops his leg off?

Luffy defeated Katakuri who uses a trident, a weapon for piercing and slashing. So If you think Luffy will loose to King because King has a sword, then Luffy has no business trying to take on Kaido. That's the logic you are using.
Luffy couldnt do shit vs the trident, Katakuri himself discarded it. A sword is far more dangerous than a trident.
Kaido doesnt use a sword, a setup that benefits Luffy. The logic is just fine if you understand how it works...
 
Sanji Lost to Blueno then beat the living shit out of someone who's 2.5X as strong as Blueno without adding in his Zoan Fruit, all in a few hours

One piece is a shounen
Another example of how powerscaling doesnt make sense.

This situation is different because you have Luffy who had to go all out to beat him, as well against Cracker and Kuri and Sanji gets a raid suit and no extreme dif battles and all the sudden he's this much stronger... what a joke powerscaling is
 
What? Doffy,Cracker beat the shit out of luffy. Luffy was getting his ass beat in base.
Anyone weaker than Katakuri is irrelevant, Luffy kept up with him in G2/G3 only needing snakeman for the finishers.
He fought Cracker for hours in G2/G3 and took barely any damage, he fought Doffy in G2/G3 but had the time limit of birdcage and lack of parasite knowledge which no diffed Jozu, otherwise I'm betting he could have stalled for 10-12 hours in G2/G3 also.
 
Why would he bother using base when G2 is so casual for him?
So Luffy has better reaction times, better mobility and can run his way out from the centre of an explosion but he is slower than Zoro.
Luffy is a goofy character and has many low showings because if he didn't One Piece would be 300 chapters shorter, but his high showings are far higher than Zoro.

G3 Pulverized Pica's head, and that was where Luffy aimed, if he aimed centre mass it would have pulverized a very large area. Zoro was in the middle of a named attack, his attacks don't suddenly become far less potent if he doesn't shout every single slash he needs to do. Slashing some rock in half is less impressive than turning it into dust, and requires less help from Kings punch.
Also Elephant gattling is stronger for AoE for obvious reasons and would have fodderized Pica very very easily, this was PIS.


He fought Katakuri for a long time in G2 or G3, anyone weaker than Katakuri who Luffy has fought with G2/G3 is irrelevant.
Just stop the BS.

You are claiming his base mode is stronger than Zoro yet he never blitz Hody like Zoro did. He base mode is so strong that his G2/G3 mode struggle against opponents during the Dressrosa tournament.

That's funny.

Oda had Luffy and Zoro attack Pica so we can see the difference between their strength. Zoro is much stronger than gear 3. He was on Luffy G4 level back then.
 
Just stop the BS.

You are claiming his base mode is stronger than Zoro yet he never blitz Hody like Zoro did. He base mode is so strong that his G2/G3 mode struggle against opponents during the Dressrosa tournament.

That's funny.

Oda had Luffy and Zoro attack Pica so we can see the difference between their strength. Zoro is much stronger than gear 3. He was on Luffy G4 level back then.
Zoro didnt and luffy did use haki, issue is we have yet to see the true difference between zoro's destruction with Haki on the blades and without it We will see it this arc

In Zou he basically did the same damage with and without Haki, and would have also been able to slice pica without blackening his blades.
 
You mean the free hit Sanji offered to King while saving Momo and talking with him?
Sanji is basically fine and King used his DF and a charged attack to split him in two and ended up with just hurting his opponent a bit :pepemy:
Sanji did nothing . His desperately needed power ranger suit saved him from a non serious king attack. King didn’t even take out his sword and Sanji feared for his life. Be grateful that oda gave Sanji the best powerup so far in this manga to stop him from being fodderized
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
Sanji did nothing . His desperately needed power ranger suit saved him from a non serious king attack. King didn’t even take out his sword and Sanji feared for his life. Be grateful that oda gave Sanji the best powerup so far in this manga to stop him from being fodderized
And even though he wore the suit his power level remained the same

Failing to defeat Page One is an embarassment my friend

He probably was stronger than PO and yet he failed to put him down, a simple, probably weakest, F6
 
Oda had Luffy and Zoro attack Pica so we can see the difference between their strength. Zoro is much stronger than gear 3. He was on Luffy G4 level back then.
No he did that to hype Zoro and give him some shine despite facing weak subordinates. Luffy was toying around laughing and Zoro told Pica he wasn't worth his captains time. Luffy didn't use gattling gun because he was being stupid.
Pica is not a fucking gear 4 level opponent lol.
 
Sanji attacked King instead of running, not an argument.
Sanji should have been able to overwhelm King's zoan form, not the other way around.
Why should he have been? The zoan form should be the physically strongest one and he was took by surprise. It didn't even kick zoan King to stop him, he was just unable to move and took the blow without counter it
 
Nothing stupid about it. Just dont think like a character from OP world and it will be clear.
There is no 20 year history about Jinbe. What hasnt been said, didnt happen.
Only what the author creates has happened, no more no less.

He took one slash and was cut, can he keep his hand after 3 slashes more? Unlikely.
Can he keep blocking Akainu and keep his hand? Unlikely. Catch my drift?
How will Sanji go past one hit which chops his leg off?


Luffy couldnt do shit vs the trident, Katakuri himself discarded it. A sword is far more dangerous than a trident.
Kaido doesnt use a sword, a setup that benefits Luffy. The logic is just fine if you understand how it works...
Who says his leg going to get chopped off. Bro Zoro took a thousand sound slashes and no limps is off yet. You just talking to talk. Also Oda gave us history of jenbei. Jenbei was out here with Fisher tiger, BM crew, warlord fighting. We now he fought strawberry who a swordsman. We seen him fighting swordsman on BM crew. Like this is stupid like i said.
 
Why should he have been? The zoan form should be the physically strongest one and he was took by surprise. It didn't even kick zoan King to stop him, he was just unable to move and took the blow without counter it
That's why zoan kaido struggled to put Oden down, compared to base kaido who one shot him, apparently cause zoan form is stronger.
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go back to sleep
 
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Luffy couldnt do shit vs the trident, Katakuri himself discarded it. A sword is far more dangerous than a trident.
Kaido doesnt use a sword, a setup that benefits Luffy. The logic is just fine if you understand how it works...
You honestly think Luffy was loosing that fight if Katakuri used the trident the entirety of that fight....:seriously:


Also a weapon is as good as its user. A swordsman does not have the defacto advantage over someone using a trident. But since you brought up the fact that Katakuri did not use the trident throughout the entire fight, whats to say the same can't happen with a possible King v Sanji. So far King main attacks has been him using his devil fruit.

And even if Kaido had a sword, no one on here is going to say Luffy has no shot against him. Kaido does have a club who last I checked, one-shotted Luffy with it. There is no benefits here.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Who says his leg going to get chopped off. Bro Zoro took a thousand sound slashes and no limps is off yet. You just talking to talk. Also Oda gave us history of jenbei. Jenbei was out here with Fisher tiger, BM crew, warlord fighting. We now he fought strawberry who a swordsman. We seen him fighting swordsman on BM crew. Like this is stupid like i said.
Why shouldnt it be chopped off?
Zoro never took thousand clean slashes...
He took one from Mihawk where Mihawk held back and that's it when it comes to Zoro taking clean slashes.

There are shallow slashes from Mr1's fingers and one clash across the shoulder from Ohm, if I remember correctly. That's it.
Everything else hasnt been a clean slash nor did he meet it with his limbs like Sanji needs to do vs King's sword.

Do you understand that characters are hollow creations of the author and that only what he has said or shown on panel is what actually happened? Did we see him handling Strawberry's swords on panel? Jinbe fighting some random swordsmen from BM's crew means nothing, they are flies for him. King isnt a fly for Sanji, Sanji is the fly. You dont understand the difference...

You honestly think Luffy was loosing that fight if Katakuri used the trident the entirety of that fight....:seriously:
What has he done for the duration of the fight while Katakuri used a trident? :myman:
whats to say the same can't happen with a possible King v Sanji. So far King main attacks has been him using his devil fruit.
Oh, dont get me wrong. If Sanji were to fight King, you can bet that it would happen, King would forget about his sword.
That's the only way Sanji stands a chance. However, do you want such a PIS affecting King? Just so you can claim a win over YC1?
Or do you want a fight where Sanji doesnt need a plot armor?
And even if Kaido had a sword, no one on here is going to say Luffy has no shot against him. Kaido does have a club who last I checked, one-shotted Luffy with it. There is no benefits here.
Big Mom has a sword and just launched an attack at Luffy and he made sure to dodge it and stay away from her. :myman:
But dont worry, he will fight her when she forgets her sword, lol. You wont lose your limbs from club, from swords you will.
 
That's why zoan kaido struggled to put Oden down, compared to base kaido who one shot him, apparently cause zoan form is stronger apparently.
That's not what i said.
Human and hybrid forms are more suited for fighting and in these forms zoan user can use their weapons. The zoan form is just the peak of their physical strength, that is pretty much useless if you can't hit your opponent properly, and can be useful in particular situations
 
That's not what i said.
Human and hybrid forms are more suited for fighting and in these forms zoan user can use their weapons. The zoan form is just the peak of their physical strength, that is pretty much useless if you can't hit your opponent properly, and can be useful in particular situations
Hybrid is the peak of zoan users, that's like saying a werewolf can't kill a wolf.
Lucci's zoan was only good for biting chibi luffy.

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