General & Others When will ZKKers stop gaslighting and just tell the truth?

#82
It was never about just defeating Kaido but save Wa No from him which Luffy as the leader of the alliance was entrusted to do by the leader of Samurai (Momonosuke)
Luffy said he will do it to O-Tama
It is also is role as Joyboy to free Wa No and this was highlighted by two people Oden and Kaido

Awakening is also a stronger form as we can see, so Kaido coming back with awakening means Luffy didn't beat Kaido's strongest form but we know Luffy always beat the villain strongest form
 
#84
Its a giant dragon shaped whole its not gonna take long to find at all

Kaido beat luffy before luffy unlocked awakening
Kaido already has that power. If hes been purposely holding back and not going all out and then gets up to awaken luffy didn't beat him
Luffy didn't hold back against kaido he gave him everything he could and lost. If luffy could awaken the whole time and just get back up kaido wouldn't have won

Yamato isn't beating kaido eitherπŸ—Ώ
Joyboy aka luffy is the only one going to get the honor of defeating him
Ten chapters later no one bothers for find Big Mom but sure. They all disembark and search for Kaido even though they don't even know he was knocked into the ground. They find him and it's like the dog who chased the car.

Luffy awakened unconsciously, it's possible for Kaido to do the same. Yes or no?

And also, if your argument is that Luffy has to get the final blow, then bringing up a CoC user who has more stamina than him right now and is actually awake doesn't help. Yamato is screwing up your argument, you should drop it.
 
#85
Because he was at like 1% health
Something no one their would be able to push him to

Gin ko'ing kreig is like zoro ko'ing sanji in thriller bark
Also Luffy shattered his armour and proved him he was stronger than him
To finish Luffy just fell in the water but before that he was still in condition to fight whereas here he can't fight anymore if Kaido came back
 
#87
The zkekers are just trolls with no job and bellow average intelligence, their main role is to troll in hope that they will get a reaction from other people, maybe this will validate their waste of time and retarded takes.
Meanwhile in one piece Z olo is choking with choppers thicc milk.
 
#89
Ten chapters later no one bothers for find Big Mom but sure. They all disembark and search for Kaido even though they don't even know he was knocked into the ground. They find him and it's like the dog who chased the car.

Luffy awakened unconsciously, it's possible for Kaido to do the same. Yes or no?

And also, if your argument is that Luffy has to get the final blow, then bringing up a CoC user who has more stamina than him right now and is actually awake doesn't help. Yamato is screwing up your argument, you should drop it.
Shes ko'd so finding her isn't urgent. Even tho they all likley know she's alive somehow. Same way finding kaido wouldn't be extremely urgent if hes kod

Do you think kaido doesn't know how to awaken on his own?


???
Only reason I mentioned yamato along with everyone else thats up is because its not like their going to do nothing if kaido keeps on fighting and luffy is down
Yamato isn't defeating kaido
Zoro isn't defeating kaido
Joyboy is
 

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#90
Because he was at like 1% health
Something no one their would be able to push him to

Gin ko'ing kreig is like zoro ko'ing sanji in thriller bark
Irrelevant
Luffy beat kreig and kreig got up.
Luffy beat moriah yet luffy was out cold and moriah was still conscious
Luffys got his w. Kaido isn't done.
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Shes ko'd so finding her isn't urgent. Even tho they all likley know she's alive somehow. Same way finding kaido wouldn't be extremely urgent if hes kod

Do you think kaido doesn't know how to awaken on his own?


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Only reason I mentioned yamato along with everyone else thats up is because its not like their going to do nothing if kaido keeps on fighting and luffy is down
Yamato isn't defeating kaido
Zoro isn't defeating kaido
Joyboy is
Defeating what. Zoros killing him
 
#91
defeating kaido is a big feat but he was defeated before but no one could kill him even he himself
but for some reason he is unkillable its also a big feat

is it outshining luffy? in attack power yes but overall no
was that huge punch end of fight? it seems like an end but for some reason it didn't feel like an end
if kaido is Unconscious for some time its a w for luffy if he get up again it won't change it also we don't know luffy is done or not so we may get another round

that being said i don't think zkk is likely oda don't kill villains in kaido case its his dream so its even more unlikely than other villains
 
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#93
Shes ko'd so finding her isn't urgent. Even tho they all likley know she's alive somehow. Same way finding kaido wouldn't be extremely urgent if hes kod

Do you think kaido doesn't know how to awaken on his own?
If he knows how to awaken then he's holding back and Luffy didn't win anyway. If he doesn't know how, it could still awaken just like Nika did. If he doesn't know how to awaken then he won't be able to stop it even if he wants to be friends or whatever people are pretending these days. Zoans have a mind of their own.

And now you're saying that ignoring the whereabouts of Kaido is fine, because he's knocked out. For the last time, no one right now knows he's even knocked out. You have a problem of assuming the characters are the same as the reader, and until you figure that out you won't make any sense.
 
#94
It was never about just defeating Kaido but save Wa No from him which Luffy as the leader of the alliance was entrusted to do by the leader of Samurai (Momonosuke)
Luffy said he will do it to O-Tama
It is also is role as Joyboy to free Wa No and this was highlighted by two people Oden and Kaido

Awakening is also a stronger form as we can see, so Kaido coming back with awakening means Luffy didn't beat Kaido's strongest form but we know Luffy always beat the villain strongest form
that is the problem with zoro fans they just want zoro to fight a stronger kaido so they can confirm their delusion of zoro > luffy
 
#95
lol why is it so crazy to think that oda will have both luffy and zoro win they both are key figures in saving wano luffy will defeat kaido and oda will have zoro do the one and only thing that luffy can not do and thats take his head with a sword :milaugh::milaugh::milaugh: everyone wins lol
 
#97
I like how these conversations always come down to the same arguments
- Oda doesn't kill villian -> Oda killed Orochi -> but but Orochi is trash and not comparable to Kaido
- If Kaido gets up then it's not Luffy's victory -> Oda showing Don Krieg, Monet getting up despite having been defeated -> but but they are both trash and not comparable to Kaido
- Only Luffy is allowed to be Wano's savior -> Oda showing both Luffy and Zoro as God and Guardiant Deity of Wano -> but but Zoro is trash compared and not comparable to Luffy
- No one can be allowed to shine after Luffy has defeated the big bad -> Oda giving Zoro and Sanji their big moment in Thriller Bark and WCI -> but but Zoro is trash compared and not comparable to Luffy,.
 
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