Character Discussion Which portrayal will be better: Sanji 1v1 King/Queen or Zoro participation in the group fight against Kaido?
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This post doesn’t even make sense. Instead of admitting sanji is fighting a calamity 1v1 your making up a scenario that doesn’t make sense. Sanji has been and always will be number 3 that’s why he is fighting king you can get mad at that all you want but that’s how it is. Sanji zoro and luffy always been way above the rest in combat and Oda isn’t changing that 24+ year dynamic because a couple of sanji haters on a forum believe so
He wasnt yc1 and hes not winning against macro and kat
Sanji vs King's set up is more than their clash. It's the fucking plotline they're both involved in.
Oda used various arcs to develop a relationship between Sanji and Kinemon. With Sanji's only interest in Onigashma being Kinemon's and Momo's safety. And King's only interest being Kinemon's and Momo's demise. This is what is called proper set-up. Sanji countlessly fighting the hoardes to get to the scarbbards and protect them, whilst King constantly telling the F6 to finish the Samurai and them constantly failing. Leading to King finally deciding to get it done himself with Sanji finally being able to reach them. And them having their penultimate match.
Oda used various arcs to develop a relationship between Sanji and Kinemon. With Sanji's only interest in Onigashma being Kinemon's and Momo's safety. And King's only interest being Kinemon's and Momo's demise. This is what is called proper set-up. Sanji countlessly fighting the hoardes to get to the scarbbards and protect them, whilst King constantly telling the F6 to finish the Samurai and them constantly failing. Leading to King finally deciding to get it done himself with Sanji finally being able to reach them. And them having their penultimate match.
In fact isn’t this the same argument around Sanji going to the roof? It’s Kaido who was beating the shit out of the scabbards. Sanji has a deep connection to the Kin’emon supposedly. So Sanji will go to the roof to fight Kaido. Kaido is also the one who is after Robin and also the one who was gonna kill Momo. Those are three things Sanji supposedly cares about. All three things in danger coming directly from Kaido. But Sanji won’t do shit to Kaido because that’s not his actual plot. He cares about Robin but he won’t do shit to Black Maria because that’s not his story. Robin will probably handle Black Maria herself. He saved Momo so he cares about Momo but he isn’t the one protecting Momo because that’s not his story. He cares about Kin’emon and company but obviously he’s not the one going to save them since he can’t beat Black Maria.
I can even go back to Sanji cares about Nami and yet he’s not the one who protected her from either Big mom herself or Ulti.
It seems time and again, “Sanji cares about X” has nothing to do with whether his story will lead to that specific outcome.
Now what’s interesting AND RARE is when someone else cares about Sanji. If for example Big mom on the roof said “Keep Robin alive and that cook who made that cake” even I would fold. That would be the moment even I would believe Sanji would go to the roof even though I know Sanji can’t harm anyone there.
See Black Maria has an interest in Sanji and that’s why the story actually put them together. Black Maria is exploiting a weakness of Sanji. They are connected via actual character and mutual interest in one another. And that’s why the story has put them together.
king has no interest in Sanji at least compared to Queen. And once again, these two are connected via actual character. And you better believe that Queen going on about “Judge’s son” and whatever his thing with Judge is will create a very specific interest from Sanji.
You know what, it’s easy. Let them meet. You at least agree that Queen will have to meet Sanji right? Well let’s wait and see what happens. Because what I know is that if they meet, there is no way this doesn’t escalate. As far as I can tell, the only way Sanji and Queen don’t fight is if they never meet.
@Lukegranders So it’s true then. You believe it’s actually possible for Sanji to have a higher bounty than Zoro this arc
okay. Wow. Make a thread about it. Hehehe. It will be fun when someone digs it up two years from now
okay. Wow. Make a thread about it. Hehehe. It will be fun when someone digs it up two years from now
Zoro never forced kaido into hybrid what the bell are you talking about? Luffy literally knocked kaido the fuck out. The same luffy that had kaido knocked out? Kaido literally laughed at Zoros attack and instantly healed. It’s not as impressive at all dont fucking lie. I swear to god this man luffy just knocked fucking kaido out for a couple of seconds yet your comparing a paper cut to that feat. Kaido laughed at Zoros attack for fucks sake what are we doing here
Yh and Sasaki flopped in getting Momo, and so will BM flop when Robin intervenes and fucks her up.
First of all....dont even say "supposed" when it comes to Kinemon and Sanji's relationship. Sanji ditched Nami and didnt care about Kiku ( who Sanji still thinks it a woman ) for Kinemon. Sanji deeply cares for him and his plotline will obviously have something to do with Kinemon. Secondly Sanji has no time to fight Kaido or go after him, if King will go after the scarbbards once his fight with Marco reaches a conclusion.
Lmao Sanji's mind this arc is just Kinemon. He cares about Nami, but he left her safety to Usopp and trusted him with it. And I dont see how briniging up any of this is relevant. So what if Sanji cant save the people he cares about, that still doesnt mean he will magically stop caring and fight Queen over an insult.
Listen I leave this blunt for you, the only way Queen will fight Sanji, is if he goes after the scarbbards. If not then Sanji wont give a flying fuck about him. Stop trying to do mental gymnastics and look at the plot objectively. Which is Sanji literally ignoring everyone to get to the scarbbards and protect them.
First of all....dont even say "supposed" when it comes to Kinemon and Sanji's relationship. Sanji ditched Nami and didnt care about Kiku ( who Sanji still thinks it a woman ) for Kinemon. Sanji deeply cares for him and his plotline will obviously have something to do with Kinemon. Secondly Sanji has no time to fight Kaido or go after him, if King will go after the scarbbards once his fight with Marco reaches a conclusion.
Lmao Sanji's mind this arc is just Kinemon. He cares about Nami, but he left her safety to Usopp and trusted him with it. And I dont see how briniging up any of this is relevant. So what if Sanji cant save the people he cares about, that still doesnt mean he will magically stop caring and fight Queen over an insult.
Listen I leave this blunt for you, the only way Queen will fight Sanji, is if he goes after the scarbbards. If not then Sanji wont give a flying fuck about him. Stop trying to do mental gymnastics and look at the plot objectively. Which is Sanji literally ignoring everyone to get to the scarbbards and protect them.
AP and durability are important stats but they are not everything.
Kata roasted Luffy most of the fight. And Luffy had better AP and better endurance than Kata at the beginning of the fight.
But Kata COO, skills and versatility trump all that.
Begining of the fight Luffy was barely nothing to Kata. Luffy only began to be a threat when he developed his other skills : FS.
And even with FS Luffy was below Kata.
In a fair fight Kata would have dusted Luffy.
Kata roasted Luffy most of the fight. And Luffy had better AP and better endurance than Kata at the beginning of the fight.
But Kata COO, skills and versatility trump all that.
Begining of the fight Luffy was barely nothing to Kata. Luffy only began to be a threat when he developed his other skills : FS.
And even with FS Luffy was below Kata.
In a fair fight Kata would have dusted Luffy.
