Future Events Who is Ryokugyu's Future Opponent?
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What high temperatures do to one's brain^
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No one gives a fuck if he beats that clown Queen.
+ the gap between Admirals and YC is big enough.
Exceptions are Luffy, Zoro, Law, and Kidd. They might be a serious threat to the Admirals after the next arc or even now after Wano depending on Oda's likings.
Lanji is not even close to being as strong as Law or Kidd let alone Zoro and Luffy.
+ the gap between Admirals and YC is big enough.
Exceptions are Luffy, Zoro, Law, and Kidd. They might be a serious threat to the Admirals after the next arc or even now after Wano depending on Oda's likings.
Lanji is not even close to being as strong as Law or Kidd let alone Zoro and Luffy.
No the gap between YC1s and Admirals not big at all. Why was Marco fighting evenly with Kizaru until he got distracted? Why was Jozu, who isn’t even YC1, fighting competitively with Aokiji until he got distracted? How did Jack, a measly YC3, manage to sink half of Fuji’s fleet while fighting him and Sengoku if Fuji could neg diff as you think he could?
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???? Are you retarded or 2020 jokes are still dunny for your little brain?
You lot doing a disservice to Sanji community by even trying to compare Sanji to Zoro. Dude is a washed up daddy issues man who whill have extreme difd against meme commander Queen where Zoro already did so much shit to the Yonko. Sanji can'r even dream about hurting someone like Kaido.
Stop trolling ans find a better hobby. No matter which lie or stupidy you will cry in the next reply. Sanji is still too weak to compete with Zoro and that won't change. In fact. If Yamato joins the crew he will be below strongest SH trio.
Cya loser.
You lot doing a disservice to Sanji community by even trying to compare Sanji to Zoro. Dude is a washed up daddy issues man who whill have extreme difd against meme commander Queen where Zoro already did so much shit to the Yonko. Sanji can'r even dream about hurting someone like Kaido.
Stop trolling ans find a better hobby. No matter which lie or stupidy you will cry in the next reply. Sanji is still too weak to compete with Zoro and that won't change. In fact. If Yamato joins the crew he will be below strongest SH trio.
Cya loser.
Courtesy of Cinera:
Assuming that he will be defeated in future, I'm curious who Ryokugyu's opponent from the Strawhat Pirates will be. As I see it, there are two main options:
I will cover the cases for them below.
The Case for Sanji
Ryokugyu's short conversation with Issho was very interesting:
From the above image, there are two reasons to suspect that Ryokugyu might be an opponent designed for Sanji:
Beyond the superficial similarities, there are other reasons to suspect that Sanji will defeat Ryokugyu:
Yamato
Ryokugyu's words can also be used to support Yamato as Ryokugyu's opponent:
Ryokugyu says that he'll only permit a "pretty lady" to feed him. One might — heavy emphasis on the "might" — interpret this to suggest that he'll be defeated by a pretty lady.
If Ryokugyu is to have a female opponent, Yamato is the only potential candidate. No other woman in One Piece meets the necessary criteria of:
Beyond the tenuous (at best) foreshadowing for Ryokugyu being defeated by a female character, there are a few other reasons to suspect a Yamato vs Ryokugyu battle.
Some Thoughts on the Crew Hierarchy
For Sanji and Yamato, what I'm most interested in seeing is if the M3 (and its associated combat hierarchy) remains undisturbed after Yamato joins the crew.
If Yamato is considered a "monster" alongside Luffy and Zoro (either expanding the Monsters to four, or kicking Sanji out of the trio), I'll feel more confident in expecting her to face an Admiral in the Final War.
If instead Sanji remains in the Monster Trio and Yamato is placed clearly below him, I'll soft-lock Ryokugyu as his opponent. I wouldn't expect Yamato to defeat any Admiral.
If Oda separates Luffy as the captain (with Zoro, Yamato and Sanji becoming their own trio as his commanders), I'll expect Luffy to defeat Sakazuki and the other 3 Admirals to be defeated by the Commander Trio.
If Oda separates Luffy and Zoro from Sanji and Yamato, I would endorse Yamato and Sanji teaming up to defeat an Admiral (probably Ryokugyu).
In decreasing order of likelihood, I'd rank them as:
I think we're most likely to see Yamato regarded as one of the "Monsters" of the crew (alongside Sanji). However, if only one of them is to be considered a Monster, I think Sanji remaining in the M3 is more likely than Yamato kicking him out.
The plot hasn't developed the way I would expect it to if Luffy and Zoro were to become their own duo. I would have expected that:
With Yamato fighting Kaido (in a protracted 1 vs 1 at that) and Zoro seemingly denied that opportunity, the Luffy and Zoro duo seems unlikely. Furthermore, Yamato may end up tag-teaming Kaido with Luffy when he returns. I still think ZKK will happen, but even if it does, it wouldn't be sufficient to distinguish Zoro from Yamato. So this is my least likely scenario.
Conclusions
I think Sanji is more likely to be Ryokugyu's opponent than Yamato. There's the possibility that Oda has both of them face him together, but I doubt it. I expect EOS Yamato to be strong enough to take on an Admiral by herself, and if Oda intends for Sanji to remain the #3 Strawhat, he'll also be similarly capable.
Ryokugyu was only barely introduced, and all the speculation right now is on very superficial grounds. As more information is revealed about him, Sanji and Yamato, I'll update accordingly.
I would say that I think Yamato facing Ryokugyu will happen only under two scenarios:
Who is Ryokugyu's Future Opponent?
IntroductionAssuming that he will be defeated in future, I'm curious who Ryokugyu's opponent from the Strawhat Pirates will be. As I see it, there are two main options:
- Sanji
- Yamato
I will cover the cases for them below.
The Case for Sanji
Ryokugyu's short conversation with Issho was very interesting:
From the above image, there are two reasons to suspect that Ryokugyu might be an opponent designed for Sanji:
- Ryokugyu has been fasting for three years.
- Sanji is a cook that will feed anyone.
- Ryokugyu might be a womaniser as he will only accept being fed by a pretty woman.
- Sanji is also a womaniser, and this similarity is something that Sanji has shared with some other opponents of his:
- Absalom
- Queen
- Sanji is also a womaniser, and this similarity is something that Sanji has shared with some other opponents of his:
Beyond the superficial similarities, there are other reasons to suspect that Sanji will defeat Ryokugyu:
- Sanji is a member of the Monster Trio.
- The Monster Trio seem setup to each defeat an Admiral:
- Luffy defeats Sakazuki.
- Zoro defeats Borsalino or Issho.
- Sanji's potential opponents are Borsalino and Ryokugyu.
- If Zoro gets Borsalino as I expect, then Sanji will be left with only Ryokugyu as a potential opponent.
- The Monster Trio seem setup to each defeat an Admiral:
- Oda may intend for all the Admirals to be defeated by Strawhats.
- This would rule out the following characters from being responsible for an Admiral's defeat:
- Sabo
- Law (?)
- Kidd
- Other Supernova
- Other allies
- This would rule out the following characters from being responsible for an Admiral's defeat:
Yamato
Ryokugyu's words can also be used to support Yamato as Ryokugyu's opponent:
Ryokugyu says that he'll only permit a "pretty lady" to feed him. One might — heavy emphasis on the "might" — interpret this to suggest that he'll be defeated by a pretty lady.
If Ryokugyu is to have a female opponent, Yamato is the only potential candidate. No other woman in One Piece meets the necessary criteria of:
- Pretty
- Strong enough to fight an Admiral.
Beyond the tenuous (at best) foreshadowing for Ryokugyu being defeated by a female character, there are a few other reasons to suspect a Yamato vs Ryokugyu battle.
- Ryokugyu could be a (Mythical) Zoan user like Yamato.
- It seems that the current Admirals have an Admiral of each type:
- Logia: Borsalino
- Paramecia: Issho
- Zoan: Ryokugyu (?)
- Yamato appears to possess a pretty powerful Zoan fruit herself.
- It seems that the current Admirals have an Admiral of each type:
- Oda may intend for the Strawhats — and only the Strawhats — to defeat ALL the Admirals:
- There are four Admirals and Yamato would be one of the four strongest Strawhats, so she should defeat one.
- If Yamato is to defeat an Admiral, then the most suitable Admiral opponent for her is Ryokugyu:
- Both of them are Mythical Zoans.
- Ryokugyu will only let a "pretty lady" break his fast.
- Yamato appears to be considerably stronger than Sanji.
- Yamato is currently facing Hybrid Kaido while Sanji is currently fighting Zoan Queen.
- Given who Yamato is, this may not change even at the end of the series.
- If she remains stronger than Sanji, she should be placed against a more powerful opponent.
Some Thoughts on the Crew Hierarchy
For Sanji and Yamato, what I'm most interested in seeing is if the M3 (and its associated combat hierarchy) remains undisturbed after Yamato joins the crew.
If Yamato is considered a "monster" alongside Luffy and Zoro (either expanding the Monsters to four, or kicking Sanji out of the trio), I'll feel more confident in expecting her to face an Admiral in the Final War.
If instead Sanji remains in the Monster Trio and Yamato is placed clearly below him, I'll soft-lock Ryokugyu as his opponent. I wouldn't expect Yamato to defeat any Admiral.
If Oda separates Luffy as the captain (with Zoro, Yamato and Sanji becoming their own trio as his commanders), I'll expect Luffy to defeat Sakazuki and the other 3 Admirals to be defeated by the Commander Trio.
If Oda separates Luffy and Zoro from Sanji and Yamato, I would endorse Yamato and Sanji teaming up to defeat an Admiral (probably Ryokugyu).
In decreasing order of likelihood, I'd rank them as:
- Monster Four
- Commander Trio
- Original Monster Trio with Yamato falling behind (like Jimbe)
- Yamato replaces Sanji in the Monster Trio
- Luffy and Zoro form their own duo
I think we're most likely to see Yamato regarded as one of the "Monsters" of the crew (alongside Sanji). However, if only one of them is to be considered a Monster, I think Sanji remaining in the M3 is more likely than Yamato kicking him out.
The plot hasn't developed the way I would expect it to if Luffy and Zoro were to become their own duo. I would have expected that:
- They would be the only Strawhats to fight Kaido.
- They would be solely (or near solely) responsible for Kaido's defeat.
- ZKK
With Yamato fighting Kaido (in a protracted 1 vs 1 at that) and Zoro seemingly denied that opportunity, the Luffy and Zoro duo seems unlikely. Furthermore, Yamato may end up tag-teaming Kaido with Luffy when he returns. I still think ZKK will happen, but even if it does, it wouldn't be sufficient to distinguish Zoro from Yamato. So this is my least likely scenario.
Conclusions
I think Sanji is more likely to be Ryokugyu's opponent than Yamato. There's the possibility that Oda has both of them face him together, but I doubt it. I expect EOS Yamato to be strong enough to take on an Admiral by herself, and if Oda intends for Sanji to remain the #3 Strawhat, he'll also be similarly capable.
Ryokugyu was only barely introduced, and all the speculation right now is on very superficial grounds. As more information is revealed about him, Sanji and Yamato, I'll update accordingly.
I would say that I think Yamato facing Ryokugyu will happen only under two scenarios:
- Yamato remains significantly stronger than Sanji even at the Final War.
- I think this is unlikely, but the next two arcs will be telling.
- Sanji defeats Borsalino instead.
- I think this is unlikely:
- I believe Borsalino is stronger than Issho.
- I expect Borsalino to be Zoro's opponent.
- I think this is unlikely:
The other two will be handled by Dragon and Sabo (Kizaru and Ryokugyu respectively).
It's just, with the revos and the admirals meeting up back in the Reverie, it felt like a waste for them not to eventually settle the score. Besides, we need to powerscale the as of now featless Dragon. Would be nice if he can prove himself top tier by taking out an Admiral.
