Character Discussion Why do People Compare Yamato to Jimbe or Franky?
I think RN everyone have the same chance to be right, so better wait for the next chapter (or whenever we will se her confront Kaido to judge her strength) one thing sure she is 100% strong at "worst" right below Sanji at best right below Zoro (the plot shall say us where she belongs if she joins the crew).
Yea we can argue that she clashed with G3/2 luffy but luffy sensed she was no harm for him so probably he wasn't going really serious (well Yamato wasn't as well) they are probably scared that she can replace someone in the M3 so they put her with Franky/Jimbe but the reality is that Luffy is already in his own leage (compared to the rest of the crew and even Zoro/Sanji) so Yamato would be PERFECT to fill the spot instead of jinbe he is cool but Yamato is cooler, she is hot and she is the dauther of fking Kaido
Yea we can argue that she clashed with G3/2 luffy but luffy sensed she was no harm for him so probably he wasn't going really serious (well Yamato wasn't as well) they are probably scared that she can replace someone in the M3 so they put her with Franky/Jimbe but the reality is that Luffy is already in his own leage (compared to the rest of the crew and even Zoro/Sanji) so Yamato would be PERFECT to fill the spot instead of jinbe he is cool but Yamato is cooler, she is hot and she is the dauther of fking Kaido
Depends on what is compared.
Crew member status? That will presumably be a thing, possibly forever if she tagged along.
Power level? Jinbe is a good analogue to attempt to calculate her power level for obvious reasons, nevertheless not necessarily coming up with a detailed enough substantial calculation at all.
Crew member status? That will presumably be a thing, possibly forever if she tagged along.
Power level? Jinbe is a good analogue to attempt to calculate her power level for obvious reasons, nevertheless not necessarily coming up with a detailed enough substantial calculation at all.
Of course Oda will change this dynamic of Luffy-Zoro-Sanji that have been part of the series since the start to put Luffy-Zoro-Yamato, makes total sense, or better, he can kill Luffy and make Yamato the new captain of the SH and the PK, makes total sense in my headcanon, if he dont do it he will destroy the series because Yamato have been build up as the most important character of the story, he meet Ace, who was son of PK, wich already prove his connection with the tittle of PK, soo Yamato PK basically confirmed.
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I know people dont like the Roger parallels, but Oden was a stronger fighter than Gabban (probably Rayleigh as well). Oden was also the strongest when he joined Whitebeard. He called the others sons while Oden was a little brother. Oda gave Yamato the Oden connection and that settles it imo power level wise. If she joins the crew, shes probably up there with Luffy and Zoro
Well , he spit a couple drops of blood but immediately got back up again like nothing happened, thats tanking imo
I didn’t say he’s equal to whitebeard because they clashed
it’s about the portrayal
He had a good portrayal against the 2 undisputed goats ( clashed with one, tanked a named attack from another)
Plus he was mentioned alongside them 2 plus xebec and shanks
That put him EASILY above rey and gaban
I didn’t say he’s equal to whitebeard because they clashed
it’s about the portrayal
He had a good portrayal against the 2 undisputed goats ( clashed with one, tanked a named attack from another)
Plus he was mentioned alongside them 2 plus xebec and shanks
That put him EASILY above rey and gaban
The three strongest members of the crew will always be Luffy, then Zoro, then Sanji. There is no reason to think that Oda would want to change that, and there’s no reason to think that he will. It’s a dynamic with too much history behind it to be thrown aside. Regardless of how the members in the trio compare to each other- right now Zoro is stronger than Sanji than has ever been before except maybe in East Blue- those three will still be used by Oda as the strongest in the crew, the main fighters, who take on Enemy Number One, Two and Three respectively.
But what Jinbei, and presumably Yamato if she joins, provides is instead of there being a massive gap between the weakest member of the M3 (Sanji) and the strongest member (Franky), there’s two other decently strong members of the crew in between, who are at least comparable to Sanji.
Yes, I’m aware that Jinbei is only fighting WW, but we’ve barely seen a thig from that fight so far. When it’s focused on, I’m still expecting him to be comfortably above Franky, and for WW to cement himself as the strongest F6- which he’s done a good job with portrayal wise already.
But what Jinbei, and presumably Yamato if she joins, provides is instead of there being a massive gap between the weakest member of the M3 (Sanji) and the strongest member (Franky), there’s two other decently strong members of the crew in between, who are at least comparable to Sanji.
Yes, I’m aware that Jinbei is only fighting WW, but we’ve barely seen a thig from that fight so far. When it’s focused on, I’m still expecting him to be comfortably above Franky, and for WW to cement himself as the strongest F6- which he’s done a good job with portrayal wise already.
I was wondering why you are not including Robin in this thread and i quickly got my answer 
Naturally she'd disrupt the whole pattern you are trying to establish with the other two about the arc they joined in order to give more credibility to the arguments you are trying to make for Yamato.
Thing is, even if you were sucessfuly able to distinguish Yamato from all three in every single way, it would not matter in the end.
Robin, Franky, Jimbe, all at their time had unique arguments going for them that distinguished them from the previous contenders, that were used to argue in their favor and make claims that they will be different, that this time things will change.
Robin had the highest known bounty after Crocodile, and only 2 mil lower than his at that, and way higher than the bounty Luffy had in Alabasta. She also had feats against the M3 and easily defeated Alabasta's strongest warrior.
Franky did not have the bounty hype, but in his case for the first time a new nakama candidate got a proper fight agains Luffy where until the end they were shown to be equally matched.
Now we move post time skip, and even with the examples of the previous contenders failing, there's hope for Jimbe because :
1. People argued that things have changed post time skip and Oda doesn't care about the M3 anymore
2. Jimbe brought in his own novelty as a former member of the Shichibukai, and certain feats against top tier opponents
No more M3
Jimbe
Sanji
Here at the M3 Club we have a thousand chapters history backing us up, with challengers of all types taking the stage and crashing under the might of the Monster Trio
We're past the point of any doubt, and welcome all to come forth and give their best shot. The stronger the contender the better, as that's merely a new impressive benchmark that Sanji's going to surpass
Naturally she'd disrupt the whole pattern you are trying to establish with the other two about the arc they joined in order to give more credibility to the arguments you are trying to make for Yamato.
Thing is, even if you were sucessfuly able to distinguish Yamato from all three in every single way, it would not matter in the end.
Robin, Franky, Jimbe, all at their time had unique arguments going for them that distinguished them from the previous contenders, that were used to argue in their favor and make claims that they will be different, that this time things will change.
Robin had the highest known bounty after Crocodile, and only 2 mil lower than his at that, and way higher than the bounty Luffy had in Alabasta. She also had feats against the M3 and easily defeated Alabasta's strongest warrior.
Franky did not have the bounty hype, but in his case for the first time a new nakama candidate got a proper fight agains Luffy where until the end they were shown to be equally matched.
Now we move post time skip, and even with the examples of the previous contenders failing, there's hope for Jimbe because :
1. People argued that things have changed post time skip and Oda doesn't care about the M3 anymore
2. Jimbe brought in his own novelty as a former member of the Shichibukai, and certain feats against top tier opponents
No more M3
Jimbe
Sanji
Here at the M3 Club we have a thousand chapters history backing us up, with challengers of all types taking the stage and crashing under the might of the Monster Trio
We're past the point of any doubt, and welcome all to come forth and give their best shot. The stronger the contender the better, as that's merely a new impressive benchmark that Sanji's going to surpass
I agree with a few things you said but yamato settled ace just shows me were she stands just like jinbe who settle ace & is now fighting flying six , I mean wasn't yamato getting ready to go all out against base Sasaki
This says alot & her knocking out ulti was nothing but a sneak attack & ulti got up not to long after that 
& I'm pretty sure a sneak leaser attack from franky could do the same thing to ulti or even jinbe now franky, brook, robin & jinbe made big mom look like childsplay but does that put them on her lever or even close no, yamato will get the same treatment they got back then people was putting them above sanji when it was clear as day that power wise sanji was above them but people hate & said otherwise so it is what it is, 
& Yamato fighting kaido wont mean she's yc12 or 3
Law got body by mingo yet he fought kaido & did nothing much killer an kidd also, but does that mean there yc123 level or equal to him NO. Stop trying to put yamato so high like how they say she can midd diff king
But nice thread by the way
This says alot & her knocking out ulti was nothing but a sneak attack & ulti got up not to long after that & I'm pretty sure a sneak leaser attack from franky could do the same thing to ulti or even jinbe now franky, brook, robin & jinbe made big mom look like childsplay but does that put them on her lever or even close no, yamato will get the same treatment they got back then people was putting them above sanji when it was clear as day that power wise sanji was above them but people hate & said otherwise so it is what it is, & Yamato fighting kaido wont mean she's yc12 or 3Law got body by mingo yet he fought kaido & did nothing much killer an kidd also, but does that mean there yc123 level or equal to him NO. Stop trying to put yamato so high like how they say she can midd diff king
But nice thread by the way
There's no indication that Jinbe got stronger since his stalemate with Ace in the same sense that there's no indication Ace got stronger outside of getting a DF...we just haven't seen it. And Jinbe himself was actually a captain. It doesn't seem like Ace fought a calamity on his way to Yamato so it puts his dialogue about her captain-like strength into context.
Franky is taking on Sasaki and his lackeys just like Jinbe is with Who's Who. Every time Franky does anything he unquestionably stands above the rest of the crew outside the M3 just like Jinbe does. I'm not saying he's definitely as strong as Yamato or Jinbe but if that's how it actually ends up being...Yamato being placed in that tier wouldn't be of disservice to her in any way. She could end up being the strongest out of them but I don't expect her to be comparable to Sanji in the long run (similarly with Jinbe). I'd be surprised if Oda doesn't increase Sanji's stature as he usually does when there's ambiguity.
Franky is taking on Sasaki and his lackeys just like Jinbe is with Who's Who. Every time Franky does anything he unquestionably stands above the rest of the crew outside the M3 just like Jinbe does. I'm not saying he's definitely as strong as Yamato or Jinbe but if that's how it actually ends up being...Yamato being placed in that tier wouldn't be of disservice to her in any way. She could end up being the strongest out of them but I don't expect her to be comparable to Sanji in the long run (similarly with Jinbe). I'd be surprised if Oda doesn't increase Sanji's stature as he usually does when there's ambiguity.
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If Yamato joined she’d have to be weaker than Sanji by default. It’s hard to see Oda letting go of such an established hierachy simply to make room for a relatively new character like Yamato at this point of the series. That’s part of the reason why Jinbe didn’t join until Wano, he was going to mess with the hierachy if he joined back in FI. It’s just that simple.