Questions & Mysteries Why hasn’t Zoro ever doubted Mihawk is WSS?

#41
Except his dream of being wss was before he met or knew Mihawk was wss

Zoro goal is to be WSS
It isn't to beat Mihawk...he doesn't think of beating Mihawk anymore as you guys claim

He can become wss without beating Mihawk
He literally said he came to sea to beat Mihawk. He never once said that after sensing them or clashing with them
 
#42
In the King fight he directly says he wants to defeat mihawk

Well No, since Kaido doesn’t include big mom meaning he doesn’t think she can fight him, right?

I love how you organize all these panels for us and make sure NOT to include the panel of Kaido saying he’s thinking of the few people who can fight him

hehe, very funny. It’s like you’re pretending I don’t know that you skipped panels
I removed unnecessary dialogue because Kaido is talking about multiple things, such as how luffy learned haki to damage him
so to make it easier for you to comprehend what Kaido was talking about in those 5 pirates panel

This is how you dumbasses came with this nonsense about "those pirates who can fight him"
You can't comprehend that Kaido was questioning multiple things in his mind.

btw, I made a thread about it a while back with all panels included to explain a toddler like you how to comprehend it:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-who-are-stronger-than-him-and-big-mom.35659/
 
#44
I removed unnecessary dialogue because Kaido is talking about multiple things, such as how luffy learned haki to damage him
so to make it easier for you to comprehend what Kaido was talking about in those 5 pirates panel

This is how you dumbasses came with this nonsense about "those pirates who can fight him"
You can't comprehend that Kaido was questioning multiple things in his mind.

btw, I made a thread about it a while back with all panels included to explain a toddler like you how to comprehend it:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-who-are-stronger-than-him-and-big-mom.35659/
What that got to do with Zoro who knows Zoro and clash with Fuji, Nusjuro etc.... We don't even know if Mihawk even met Kaido. The point of this thread is to see why Zoro hasn't changed up his target after sensing Nusjuro and clashing with them after sensing Mihawk etc...
 
#45
Why has nobody ever doubted that Kaido is WSC? Or Whitebeard is WSM?
Same thing here. They have no reason to doubt it. Mihawk's proven himself to be the WSS.
Funnily enough, they did.

For Kaido, Zoro referred to him as WSC using a tone that in English would be translated as "so-called"

For Whitebeard, Crocodile and Marco acknowledged he isn't strong enough to call himself the strongest anymore.
 
#51
I removed unnecessary dialogue because Kaido is talking about multiple things, such as how luffy learned haki to damage him
so to make it easier for you to comprehend what Kaido was talking about in those 5 pirates panel

This is how you dumbasses came with this nonsense about "those pirates who can fight him"
You can't comprehend that Kaido was questioning multiple things in his mind.

btw, I made a thread about it a while back with all panels included to explain a toddler like you how to comprehend it:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-who-are-stronger-than-him-and-big-mom.35659/
Agree with the post you also missed a thing, Oda separates the black writing about Kaido thinking about "what happened in kuri etc." and the "....!" behind of Kaido looking at luffy silhouette, and then stating are you implying etc.
For me that separates the "only a handful can damage me.." with Kaido having an other thought popping up in his mind while looking at luffy and for a second believing in his "I'll surpass you and become PK" with the "are you implying.."
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#52
But the strange thing is that in-world, the character who this would affect THE MOST doesn’t seem to notice any ambiguity of any kind.
:milaugh: Excellent!
Zoro's aim has always been directed towards the true strongest of them all.

Never went after or even mentioned Whitebeard.
For a short while he aimed at Kaido because he had heard that Kaido was the toughest in the world.
Forgot about Kaido as soon as he encountered a masked guy who was soaking up damage on another level even compared to Kaido.

In short, Zoro never doubted who the true strongest is because to not doubt, that is power.
 
#53
Agree with the post you also missed a thing, Oda separates the black writing about Kaido thinking about "what happened in kuri etc." and the "....!" behind of Kaido looking at luffy silhouette, and then stating are you implying etc.
For me that separates the "only a handful can damage me.." with Kaido having an other thought popping up in his mind while looking at luffy and for a second believing in his "I'll surpass you and become PK" with the "are you implying.."
Kaido simply says there are handful of people capable of fighting on par with me...are you implying that you are comparable to roger/WB/Shanks/oden etc. Simple as that.
 
#54
Well Kaido knows Garp was Roger’s rival who supposedly almost killed Roger multiple times right? And Garp was also involved in the defeat of Kaido’s Captain Rocks.

and the vivre card recently said Garp is still near the strength of his prime that allowed him to compete with Roger

So what does that say about Kaido’s top 5 list?
kaido is a guy who never left his island in like 40 years. his top 5 list is the people it is because he only ever clashed with oden, people at god valley, and shanks telling him to fall in line and stay away from marineford. also garp not being on that list does seem like more evidence to me that kaido is the one who betrayed rocks at god valley
 
#55
If Mihawk was in Kaidou's "list", we'd just have 200 posts instead with, "wow so Mihawk and Kaidou fought in past, and Kaidou is still alive? Wtf???? Mihawk < Shanks XDDD"

There's no winning with this nonsense. I really hope Oda just lets Mihawk do fucking anything, it would make the manga so much more enjoyable.

If Kaidou's list is anything but about the people he's actually fought (or seen fight) in the past, we'd have to ask where Rayleigh, Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, etc. are.

I mean why tf is Loki not in there, xddddddd??? Fraud confurmed, cancel elbaph
 
#56
If Mihawk was in Kaidou's "list", we'd just have 200 posts instead with, "wow so Mihawk and Kaidou fought in past, and Kaidou is still alive? Wtf???? Mihawk < Shanks XDDD"

There's no winning with this nonsense. I really hope Oda just lets Mihawk do fucking anything, it would make the manga so much more enjoyable.

If Kaidou's list is anything but about the people he's actually fought (or seen fight) in the past, we'd have to ask where Rayleigh, Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, etc. are.

I mean why tf is Loki not in there, xddddddd??? Fraud confurmed, cancel elbaph
The way people treat Kaidos Top 5 like gospel will never not be funny to me. Some people on here act like his actual title was the Worlds Wisest Creature or some shit like that.

The man was tough, and strong, and had a pretty busted devil fruit all things considered. He is as far as I know never described as somebody all that knowledgeable about the way of the world, nor does he travel and seek out strong opponents if I am to be real here.

The man chilled on Wano for most of his career. He is arguably one of the worst sources for in-universe power lists.

Kaido is also stupid person in-universe straight up, like lets be clear here. He wants to kill himself but does not drown himself why exactly?

Because no, the cope about it being "just through battle/war" is proven false via his literal intro being him jumping in an attempt to kill himself. He was not fighting Zeus in that sky island okay?

Oda wrote him as somebody who wants to die, but he never even thinks of some ways that SHOULD kill him. Like eat two fruits, drown yourself, stuff like that!

But hell even IF him only wishing to die in battle was it, why doesn't he instead of shooting Oden in the head like a coward after he got so mad over him and their duel getting interrupted let Oden heal and fuck him up again?!

The same slander people use for Mihawk never gets applied to Kaido for some fucked up reason despite him not even having a specific skill set he seeks out in people he wishes to fight and there being DIRECT evidence his title is fraudulent instead of cope from the haters online. Like IMAGINE if Mihawk killed Oden after he got distracted mid-fight by one of Mihawks allies.

Kaido got fucked up by a basic ass dragon twister but King did not. He for SURE is not tougher than his own subordinate yet some people treat him like he is tougher than Kin if ate the diamond fruit for some reason. Imagine if Zoro used a basic attack to block Mihawk but had to use Asura to do the same with Fuji?

The double standard is CRAZY!

Why does Kaido, the totally death seeking strongest creature in the verse not attack Elbaf? Marineford? The Holy Land? All places probably filled to the brim with people that can give him a good fight.

Instead, he chills on Wano, and sure me and other people that acknowledge this is a story, do know Kaido had to act like he does much like Mihawk does so the story can happen.

But if you DON'T do that? Why the fuck are you not slandering Kaido for doing fuck all most of his career much less accept ANYTHING that guy says about the power level of the verse?

How would he even KNOW? He barely knows a single person alive that is not from his era, or currently living in Wano. He probably would think Kong still runs the Marines the way he lives in the past.
 
#59
If Mihawk was in Kaidou's "list", we'd just have 200 posts instead with, "wow so Mihawk and Kaidou fought in past, and Kaidou is still alive? Wtf???? Mihawk < Shanks XDDD"

There's no winning with this nonsense. I really hope Oda just lets Mihawk do fucking anything, it would make the manga so much more enjoyable.

If Kaidou's list is anything but about the people he's actually fought (or seen fight) in the past, we'd have to ask where Rayleigh, Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, etc. are.

I mean why tf is Loki not in there, xddddddd??? Fraud confurmed, cancel elbaph
Cuz you don't understand Kaido list. It's about pirates that he fought. We can justify mihawk, I believe he is above Oden. But Ray, Shiki etc are weaker.
And Garp is a marine.
 
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