Questions & Mysteries Will Mihawk actually be Zoro's final opponent?

Luffy doesn’t care, but oda does. That’s kind of the point of Fishman Island, that the people need to cheer for Luffy, luffys not a monster anymore. He’s the god of liberation.

And cmon it very clearly does matter what the world thinks when it comes to how oda writes one piece. That’s why luffy always gets tearful goodbyes and thanks when he leaves islands. He’s never been treated like a monster after taking down a corrupt ruler, he’s always the hero.

I really don’t see oda suddenly changing that in the final arc.
The point im making is that itll matter when it matters. The world hearing about Luffy defeating Akainu and then freaking out about it is as par for the course on him essentially being considered a terrorist for breaking out pirates at Impel Down and raiding Marineford.

Of course by the end the world will know who he is and what he stands for, its even clear his secret dream involves the world. But that all involves taking down the current marine and WG establishment. We know this and have known this for years
 
The point im making is that itll matter when it matters. The world hearing about Luffy defeating Akainu and then freaking out about it is as par for the course on him essentially being considered a terrorist for breaking out pirates at Impel Down and raiding Marineford.

Of course by the end the world will know who he is and what he stands for, its even clear his secret dream involves the world. But that all involves taking down the current marine and WG establishment. We know this and have known this for years
I’m not saying the WG and marines won’t be taken down, just that it won’t be luffy who does it.
 
Shiryu if the theory about him awakening into Nothingness comes true.
Mihawk cannot be beaten without having a Black Blade and Shiryu cannot be harmed if he ends up Nothing.
Not without the ability to cut nothing.
All others are beatable without needing a PU.
Ngl, i do like the idea of Shiryu having temporary intangeability and Zoro having to deal with that. It does sound like a good avenue to take him
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I’m not saying the WG and marines won’t be taken down, just that it won’t be luffy who does it.
It will absolutely be Luffy who does it lol.

Thats the whole point of Whitebeards death speech and Roger's flashback. The person who finds One Piece will bring the world to heel
 
Oda has been hyping this fight up since the 90s.

And remember that argument Akainu fans have about scars?

Zoro has one too lmao.

It's Zoro's most important fight. And thus. HAS to be his final one.

So the only possible way Mihawk isn't Zoro's last fight if someone kills him and takes the title himself.

Which I doubt.
 
There absolutely nothing be it the canon manga or extra material portraying Kizaru as a swordsman. He just happens to be a versatile guy who adapted his fighting style to his opponent.
You'd think a swordsman would have used his sword at least once in MF, instead he fought Whitebeard that way :
 
Oda has been hyping this fight up since the 90s.

And remember that argument Akainu fans have about scars?

Zoro has one too lmao.

It's Zoro's most important fight. And thus. HAS to be his final one.

So the only possible way Mihawk isn't Zoro's last fight if someone kills him and takes the title himself.

Which I doubt.
Nah i dont think he needs to be last, just when Luffy becomes PK because thats how Mihawk himself has situated the goal (To paraphrase, "Pirate King is a harder goal than surpassing me"). If thats last then cool, but if theres anything else afterwards it makes sense.
 
What’s HK?

So Zoro is gonna tell the SHs guys I’m out not joining the final war :seriously: Or do you prefer he take the role of fodder control?
Holy knights or whatever they're called. That will happen in the final war.

The final war will have every single faction involved. Oda literally calls it a battle royale. Doffy's speech also forshadows the struggle for the throne with all factions involved. If you think the admirals will just be focused for SHs then you reading the wrong story

Mihawk is Zoro's final fight no matter how much you people wanna cope
 
Yes, he is Zoro's Biggest Struggle in this manga.



Even if there are Fights after Mihawk, Zoro will just walk through them.
He's having extreme diff against admiral or Gorosei on the final war
He will use Ashura as a mode (not just 1 or 2 attack)

Keep believing Mihawk is above Admirals
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Holy knights or whatever they're called. That will happen in the final war.

The final war will have every single faction involved. Oda literally calls it a battle royale. Doffy's speech also forshadows the struggle for the throne with all factions involved. If you think the admirals will just be focused for SHs then you reading the wrong story

Mihawk is Zoro's final fight no matter how much you people wanna cope
Why would Mihawk be Zoro's final fight when the story ends wirh SHs defeating WG (imu forces)?

Mihawk holds no weight to Joyboy battle against WG
 
Ngl, i do like the idea of Shiryu having temporary intangeability and Zoro having to deal with that. It does sound like a good avenue to take him
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It will absolutely be Luffy who does it lol.

Thats the whole point of Whitebeards death speech and Roger's flashback. The person who finds One Piece will bring the world to heel
There’s wayyyy too many groups out there for Luffy to take down every single one of them. And the world government and marines are getting taken apart by too many separate groups to actually be a threat EOS.

Whitebeards speech is why I think this has a chance of happening, “when that treasure is found the world will be turned upside down.“ This doesn’t just have to mean that the world will end up in shock, but that literally those at the bottom will end up at the top. Cross Guild is the face of the underworld right now and actively works alongside the underworld emperors. The underworld conquering the world is literally the world turning upside down.
 
There’s wayyyy too many groups out there for Luffy to take down every single one of them. And the world government and marines are getting taken apart by too many separate groups to actually be a threat EOS.

Whitebeards speech is why I think this has a chance of happening, “when that treasure is found the world will be turned upside down.“ This doesn’t just have to mean that the world will end up in shock, but that literally those at the bottom will end up at the top. Cross Guild is the face of the underworld right now and actively works alongside the underworld emperors. The underworld conquering the world is literally the world turning upside down.
The issue is you dont subscribe to a larger war, which is the problem on your end for agreeing or not lol:kata:
 
Yeah I really don’t. Not odas style to write a multi prong war. Makes much more sense to write a series of fights that lead to an inevitable end.
The issue is assuming there are any more relegated "kingdom" type arcs after Elbaf. Teach isnt a tyrannical ruler of an island needing to be saved. Shanks doesnt even have a canonical home base at this time. Akainu is in charge of a base which he may not even need to stay positioned at in the end.

I think if Oda is implying the scale of the final conflict is much larger than Marineford, then its clear it needs to involve more than 1 Yonko and the Marines in the least.

But lets even assume its not and its just a continuous bout of fights at separate islands:

- We still have Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale in the least, but we should also be including Law's original destination
- If you want to "compare" those to the 4 "known" characters who are viable threats to Luffy, then you have Blackbeard, Shanks, Akainu and Imu. Obviously it may be more or less, idk
- This is also not including the "potential" for things after Laugh Tale (i.e. Marijoa or God Valley, etc).

So I dont think the issue is necessarily the number of people standing in Luffy's way. Geographically, the story already can support 3-4 more antagonists with minimal issues.

But this is why I doubt the same rudimentary approach to arc villains post Elbaf, because 4 is a lot in isolation from each other. We have it in Egghead potentially. And Elbaf may or may not be its own thing or with one of those remaining 4 characters, but after this theres no indication that we "need" to have a basic structure with islands moving to the end.
 
Honestly i wouldnt even go that far. They can be equal, Fuji could be stronger, it doesnt matter. I personally expect Zoro to still fight an Admiral before the EoS and Mihawk anyway.

My question is more why Kizaru is actually that important to them lmao.
Fuji being weaker doesn’t mean much weaker in my opinion by the end of the day it’s minimum high diff. And to answer your question why he is so important it’s because he is the second strongest admiral after Akainu. So they just after hype.
 
The issue is assuming there are any more relegated "kingdom" type arcs after Elbaf. Teach isnt a tyrannical ruler of an island needing to be saved. Shanks doesnt even have a canonical home base at this time. Akainu is in charge of a base which he may not even need to stay positioned at in the end.

I think if Oda is implying the scale of the final conflict is much larger than Marineford, then its clear it needs to involve more than 1 Yonko and the Marines in the least.

But lets even assume its not and its just a continuous bout of fights at separate islands:

- We still have Elbaf, Lodestar and Laugh Tale in the least, but we should also be including Law's original destination
- If you want to "compare" those to the 4 "known" characters who are viable threats to Luffy, then you have Blackbeard, Shanks, Akainu and Imu. Obviously it may be more or less, idk
- This is also not including the "potential" for things after Laugh Tale (i.e. Marijoa or God Valley, etc).

So I dont think the issue is necessarily the number of people standing in Luffy's way. Geographically, the story already can support 3-4 more antagonists with minimal issues.

But this is why I doubt the same rudimentary approach to arc villains post Elbaf, because 4 is a lot in isolation from each other. We have it in Egghead potentially. And Elbaf may or may not be its own thing or with one of those remaining 4 characters, but after this theres no indication that we "need" to have a basic structure with islands moving to the end.
You’re taking scale to mean people, I’m taking it to mean location. The final war will have effects on the entire world. We already saw quakes from one ancient weapon shook all the way to the east blue, that’s the scale I’m assuming not people.

And none of these will be in isolation? The world will move along with luffy just like it has throughout Egghead. And Luffy will go to his final destinations:
- Elbaf where he defeats Sakazuki
- God Valley (or wherever the fourth Poneglyph is) where he defeats Blackbeard
- Raftel no battle just lore
- Mariejoa where he defeats Imu in the final war

A final 5 prong war doesn’t need to happen, and hoenstly I don’t see it happening because it’ll get too messy and diminish luffys role
 
You’re taking scale to mean people, I’m taking it to mean location. The final war will have effects on the entire world. We already saw quakes from one ancient weapon shook all the way to the east blue, that’s the scale I’m assuming not people.

And none of these will be in isolation? The world will move along with luffy just like it has throughout Egghead. And Luffy will go to his final destinations:
- Elbaf where he defeats Sakazuki
- God Valley (or wherever the fourth Poneglyph is) where he defeats Blackbeard
- Raftel no battle just lore
- Mariejoa where he defeats Imu in the final war

A final 5 prong war doesn’t need to happen, and hoenstly I don’t see it happening because it’ll get too messy and diminish luffys role
Bro just add Shanks and Mihawk to LT and Id call it a truce with you lol. Thats precisely the argument Im making if he does not give a full scale war with everyone in it.
 
I don’t see Mihawk and Shanks fighting side by side. If oda wanted to do that he would’ve had mihawk join shanks already.
Nah they dont need to join together, just that Mihawk can be where Shanks is to fill the fight for Zoro.

Think about it, you want CG there at LT to justify Buggy's PK meme right? All that also needs to happen is Shanks being present at the same time if Blackbeard and Akainu are gone by that point
 
Nah they dont need to join together, just that Mihawk can be where Shanks is to fill the fight for Zoro.

Think about it, you want CG there at LT to justify Buggy's PK meme right? All that also needs to happen is Shanks being present at the same time if Blackbeard and Akainu are gone by that point
I want Cross Guild at Mariejoa after they’ve already taken the One Piece from Raftel

Buggys sitting on the empty throne
 
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