Questions & Mysteries Will Zoro and Sanji unlock CoC in this arc?

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Inspector_Mu

:gokulaugh: stop comparing roger to luffy

Luffy will have allies and do what roger failed
Roger needed that much CoC coz he never had as much allies as luffy.

Anyway... Zoro will et it what?
I already said it Oden is Luffy
Both have VoAt and CoC, leading many. Oden could be adCoA user too.

Zoro only parallels Oden with Enma finish.

"Katakuri has it
Rayleigh , so zoro too"

First of all Zoro isnt a good leader... he isnt naturally a leader! Even Sanji has better leadership than him

If sanji and zoro had it, thy would have shown it a long time ago
How can they show CoC way after they have unlocked and mastered basic Haki?

Ussop is the only one getting it since he just unlocked haki AT DR
 
that's how a lot of people became royalty IRL
Which just goes to show how worthless the idea that a royal lineage is an somehow an advantage in CoC is. Any orphan schmuck, like, say, Whitebeard, can be born with it and end up making themselves a ruler. But it is not something that the established royal families, like the Vinsmokes, are born with more naturally than others.
 
Which just goes to show how worthless the idea that a royal lineage is an somehow an advantage in CoC is. Any orphan schmuck, like, say, Whitebeard, can be born with it and end up making themselves a ruler. But it is not something that the established royal families, like the Vinsmokes, are born with more naturally than others.
it has literally been stated that people with CoC have the disposition of a king

hence while not all royals have CoC, wouldn't being a royal be a plus?
 
Zoro already has it imo.
He made Urashima run away due to his weird aura
He glared at Enma and made it give him back his haki
etc
Zoro may unlock it, but sure he doesn't have it
Otherwise, Zoro wouldn't on many occasions when they have no time to fight fodders like in Dressrosa when whole city is after them or in Wano when they were looking for Otama, Zoro if he has it he wouldn't tell Luffy they don't have time to waste on them so that Luffy knocks them out with his haki. Those were the biggest signs for me that he doesn't have it, cause if he had it, he wouldn't himt at Luffy to use it, he would have done it by himself

Also, regarding Fishman island quote from Zoro, the translation varies from one version to another, sure one version felt like he has it where he stated about Luffy using king's haki "if he can't do that much, he would have to step down as a captain" which sure for some fans sounded like Zoro can do it

But other translation versions says "if he can't do this much, we would have to find a new captain"
meaning trying finding someone with quality of a king, someone ELSE, new character as captain (Zoro himself is NOT included)

I first was hesitated if he already has it, but since he relies on Luffy for using it multiple times, then he shouldn't have it yet.

Though I do agree that he will unlock it. There is absolutely no way I will accept that he doesn't have the potential.


Sanji on the other hand, although the guy is my favorite character, I will say this, if he EVER had it, it would be related to royalty bloodline (since Oda stated in databooks before that previeous kings in the past used to use king's haki power)

However, looking at scummy Vinsmokes, I have hard time seeing that LOL, but who knows.

And I will admit that, Sanji DOES NOT have a strong determination and well as Zoro or Luffy, making it harder for me to see him unlock it.

I have yet to see Sanji in a scene where all odds are against him, and he still plans to win.

I feel that's even the only thing that makes Zoro show more feat than Sanji, is because he pushes himself beyond his limit while Sanji gives up easier, which is why I feel he doesn't have a quality of a king to use it.

Sanji only competes to the last breathe with Zoro, that's the only time Sanji endures as much as Zoro. but other than that for their rivalry, Sanji does not try to endure as much when he's facing other obstacles.

He rather gives up easier which is a shame, but it also reflects his character which takes the decision based on rationality and reason unlike Zoro and Luffy who never looked at reason or rationality in matters of winning or losing.

Sanji's case is somewhat similar to Law, Law as well is very much like Sanji in that regard. While Kidd is like Luffy.

Look at Law vs Mingo, and Luffy vs Mingo as example.

Law after Gamma Knife: He lost hope, and didn't want to continue, he was screaming "damn it, damn it" since he didn't finish Doffy yet.

Luffy after gear 4th ran out, Hhe was trying to escape, his focus was solely focused on "I have to win 10 min to finish him with ome final blow"

HUUUGE difference in mentality.

I would say that's sadly the negative side to strategic rational characters like Sanji and Law, is that they hold back their progress with haki because their determination is backed up by rational and reason, where they give up easier than the likes of Luffy, Zoro and most likely kidd as well

If Sanji ever changed that attitude of his, and gained the "never give up" attitude, Sanji imo would close the very small gap between him and Zoro which imo is the only reason for Zoro's slight advantage over him in combat
 
Too bad you have to be born with it and Sanji nor Zoro show anything like that.
Zoro does show this intimidating aura but not once has Oda displaying him knocking out animals or humans. But have them back off because of his stare. Something that different from CoC all together...
 
Zoro may unlock it, but sure he doesn't have it
Otherwise, Zoro wouldn't on many occasions when they have no time to fight fodders like in Dressrosa when whole city is after them or in Wano when they were looking for Otama, Zoro if he has it he wouldn't tell Luffy they don't have time to waste on them so that Luffy knocks them out with his haki. Those were the biggest signs for me that he doesn't have it, cause if he had it, he wouldn't himt at Luffy to use it, he would have done it by himself

Also, regarding Fishman island quote from Zoro, the translation varies from one version to another, sure one version felt like he has it where he stated about Luffy using king's haki "if he can't do that much, he would have to step down as a captain" which sure for some fans sounded like Zoro can do it

But other translation versions says "if he can't do this much, we would have to find a new captain"
meaning trying finding someone with quality of a king, someone ELSE, new character as captain (Zoro himself is NOT included)

I first was hesitated if he already has it, but since he relies on Luffy for using it multiple times, then he shouldn't have it yet.

Though I do agree that he will unlock it. There is absolutely no way I will accept that he doesn't have the potential.


Sanji on the other hand, although the guy is my favorite character, I will say this, if he EVER had it, it would be related to royalty bloodline (since Oda stated in databooks before that previeous kings in the past used to use king's haki power)

However, looking at scummy Vinsmokes, I have hard time seeing that LOL, but who knows.

And I will admit that, Sanji DOES NOT have a strong determination and well as Zoro or Luffy, making it harder for me to see him unlock it.

I have yet to see Sanji in a scene where all odds are against him, and he still plans to win.

I feel that's even the only thing that makes Zoro show more feat than Sanji, is because he pushes himself beyond his limit while Sanji gives up easier, which is why I feel he doesn't have a quality of a king to use it.

Sanji only competes to the last breathe with Zoro, that's the only time Sanji endures as much as Zoro. but other than that for their rivalry, Sanji does not try to endure as much when he's facing other obstacles.

He rather gives up easier which is a shame, but it also reflects his character which takes the decision based on rationality and reason unlike Zoro and Luffy who never looked at reason or rationality in matters of winning or losing.

Sanji's case is somewhat similar to Law, Law as well is very much like Sanji in that regard. While Kidd is like Luffy.

Look at Law vs Mingo, and Luffy vs Mingo as example.

Law after Gamma Knife: He lost hope, and didn't want to continue, he was screaming "damn it, damn it" since he didn't finish Doffy yet.

Luffy after gear 4th ran out, Hhe was trying to escape, his focus was solely focused on "I have to win 10 min to finish him with ome final blow"

HUUUGE difference in mentality.

I would say that's sadly the negative side to strategic rational characters like Sanji and Law, is that they hold back their progress with haki because their determination is backed up by rational and reason, where they give up easier than the likes of Luffy, Zoro and most likely kidd as well

If Sanji ever changed that attitude of his, and gained the "never give up" attitude, Sanji imo would close the very small gap between him and Zoro which imo is the only reason for Zoro's slight advantage over him in combat
Sengoku had CoC and not once did he use it in marineford to reduce the numbers of fodder.

CoC at the moment is like coo, it is used when Oda wants to use then forgotten when he doesnt want to use it
 
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PeperLevi

@ardym You're too dumbass.
you can bet King and even Queen might have it as well
You're underestimating Jack so damn much.
Stop of judge him for his relationship with certain crewmates. There no reason for this.
Their relationship can look bad in first look,but i'm sure that actually has much depth. Take BMPs as example: They're so united as SHs,but even them have internal bad times sometimes.
Jack also is a endlessly better candidate to one that can have CoC than Sanji: In Databook Vivre Card was hinted that he can be a natural born fighter just like Linlin,as was revealed that he is one of BPs's best fighters since he was a child.
and we know that Zoro and Sanji are going to be the strongest after Luffy as they always were. so without doubt they will unlock it at some point .
Sanji never had comparassion in power with Zoro and it didn't changed anything so far.
During all Totto Land Arc,Sanji accepted every shit that camed to him.
While already in the first eight pages of Wano Arc,Zoro destroyed the first shit that camed to him like a beast.
Also,Sanji no longer is one of the strongests after Luffy since Time-Skip. Because during Time-Skip Chopper achieved his full potential,that's be one against who Sanji can't do any crap.
Sanji has as much business having CoC as Chopper does
No. Sanji's business with CoC isn't equal to Chopper's,because Chopper's is too great.
 
@ardym You're too dumbass.

You're underestimating Jack so damn much.
Stop of judge him for his relationship with certain crewmates. There no reason for this.
Their relationship can look bad in first look,but i'm sure that actually has much depth. Take BMPs as example: They're so united as SHs,but even them have internal bad times sometimes.
Jack also is a endlessly better candidate to one that can have CoC than Sanji: In Databook Vivre Card was hinted that he can be a natural born fighter just like Linlin,as was revealed that he is one of BPs's best fighters since he was a child.

Sanji never had comparassion in power with Zoro and it didn't changed anything so far.
During all Totto Land Arc,Sanji accepted every shit that camed to him.
While already in the first eight pages of Wano Arc,Zoro destroyed the first shit that camed to him like a beast.
Also,Sanji no longer is one of the strongests after Luffy since Time-Skip. Because during Time-Skip Chopper achieved his full potential,that's be one against who Sanji can't do any crap.

No. Sanji's business with CoC isn't equal to Chopper's,because Chopper's is too great.
I completely agree, I believe Chopper will awaken CoC this arc. Many people seem to believe this is Zoro’s arc, but I think it’s Chopper’s. Chopper will shine in his fight with Kaido, that’s for sure
 
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