Questions & Mysteries Yonkous are not as strong as people made them out to be?

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#41
Hasnt it been established that if you have the technique you can hurt him or are you just ignoring that ? Wasnt WB getting stabbed by fodders too? Is he a fraud too ?
I want to follow your logic here.
Are you saying hes a fraud because he got hurt by something that was said in manga by oda himself that can hurt him. Are you going to just ignore manga facts and keep spouting this same sentence over and over?
Hurting him is fine, it goes along with preestablished rules of haki, he didnt even get damage much if at all.
Wb doesnt have dragon scales and was old sick dying unable to use haki properly.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#43
Kaido wasnt using haki and the technique used against him ignores durability, or are you just ignoring that too? Thats litteraly what it does, therefore yes, if they have the technique then its no different from fodder stabbing wb.
Kaido doesnt defend with haki he defends with his dragon scales.
Wb defends with his haki those fodders wouldnt stab wb if he could use his haki properly
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#44
Kaido doesnt defend with haki he defends with his dragon scales.
Wb defends with his haki those fodders wouldnt stab wb if he could use his haki properly
And you can ignore his scales with the right haki technique, a technique which kiku and kinnemon have, therefore its basically like stabbing normal skin.
I only brought up kaido not using haki cause you said wb haki was bad then.
So whats the difference, i ask you, if you can ignore kaidos dura with a preestablished haki thing against stabbing normal skin? Which is what happened.

Its basically the same thing if you use the correct haki.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#45
And you can ignore his scales with the right haki technique, a technique which kiku and kinnemon have, therefore its basically like stabbing normal skin.
I only brought up kaido not using haki cause you said wb haki was bad then.
So whats the difference, i ask you, if you can ignore kaidos dura with a preestablished haki thing against stabbing normal skin? Which is what happened.

Its basically the same thing if you use the correct haki.
Kaido doesnt defend with haki. So its not an excuse. Wb does
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
#48
Ryou ignores durability.....and they stabbed him cause Kaido didnt use haki assuming they couldn't cut him.

Luffy needs Ryoy to hurt Kaido cause his durability(or imo his recovery time) is too high, but what if Kaido uses haki as well? Then it depends on who's haki is stronger.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#50
Kaido doesnt defend with haki. So its not an excuse. Wb does
Omg its like im talking to a brick wall, thats not the point mate. Yes he doesnt defend with haki, his scales can be ignored with the right haki technique, if his scales can be ignored as it was preestablished then its litteraly like stabbing normal skin, Therefore its the same situation as the fodders stabbing wb.
Using that to say anything bad about kaido when wb or anyone else with normal skin with no haki gets stabbed the same way is not only
incredibly disingenuous but its also insulting to oda who established rules about kaidos skin and how to penetrate it.
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They have Ryou, that’s self explanatory.
Apparently not and its something that needs to explained over and over and over again.
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Ryou ignores durability.....and they stabbed him cause Kaido didnt use haki assuming they couldn't cut him.

Luffy needs Ryoy to hurt Kaido cause his durability(or imo his recovery time) is too high, but what if Kaido uses haki as well? Then it depends on who's haki is stronger.
Cant believe im saying this but thanks bro. I dont understand why HA0 keeps using kiku and kinnemon stabbing him as if its some alien unexplainable and bad thing.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#51
Omg its like im talking to a brick wall, thats not the point mate. Yes he doesnt defend with haki, his scales can be ignored with the right hakki technique, if his scales can be ignored as it was preestablished then its litteraly like stabbing normal skin, Therefore its the same situation as the fodders stabbing wb.
Using that to say anything bad about kaido when wb or anyone else with normal skin with no haki gets stabbed the same way is not only
incredibly disingenuous but its also insulting to oda who established rules about kaidos skin and how to penetrate it.
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Apparently not and its something that needs to explained over and over and over again.
Kaidos using his fruit powers to defend stop being dumb its not the same as oldsick dyingbeard getting stabbed.
Kaido was happily saying your swords cant harm me
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#52
Kaidos using his fruit powers to defend stop being dumb its not the same as oldsick dyingbeard getting stabbed.
Kaido was happily saying your swords cant harm me
what devil fruit power? Zoans merge bodies with their fruits, im not being dumb mate, ryou ignore dura, thats why they stabbed him, its not rocket science. If it ignores dura then its akin to stabbing normal skin, and since you yourself said he didnt use haki, then voila!
Kaido said that yes, but then they used ryou and hurt him. Can you read man?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#53
what devil fruit power? Zoans merge bodies with their fruits, im not being dumb mate, ryou ignore dura, thats why they stabbed him, its not rocket science. If it ignores dura then its akin to stabbing normal skin, and since you yourself said he didnt use haki, then voila!
Kaido said that yes, but then they used ryou and hurt him. Can you read man?
Myth zoans can use their power in base. Like marco using his flames.
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#54
What power did kaido use exactly? Its just his skin bro, thats it.The point is ryou ignores dura no matter how weak you are you will stab a person, the same as anyone with normal skin not using haki to defend themselves gets stabbed.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#55
What power did kaido use exactly? Its just his skin bro, thats it.The point is ryou ignores dura no matter how weak you are you will stab a person, the same as anyone with normal skin not using haki to defend themselves gets stabbed.
His dragon scales.
Luffy didnt train for kaidos haki he trained for his skills
The burden of proof is on you claiming suddenly kaido will defend with haki
 

Fujishiro

Just chilling
#58
His dragon scales.
Luffy didnt train for kaidos haki he trained for his skills
The burden of proof is on you claiming suddenly kaido will defend with haki
Oh my god, im not even saying hes gonna defend with haki, im saying that bringing up kinnemon and kiku and saying that they stabbed him is not a bad thin for kaido because it was established that ryou ignore durability, therefore its litteraly like stabbing normal skin. Capiche?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#59
Oh my god, im not even saying hes gonna defend with haki, im saying that bringing up kinnemon and kiku and saying that they stabbed him is not a bad thin for kaido because it was established that ryou ignore durability, therefore its litteraly like stabbing normal skin. Capiche?
Lmfao if thats the level where his defence ends that someone as weak as 20 years ago kiku can break it hes a bigger fraud than i thought. Not only will most other top tiers have the same type haki to hurt him their haki strength will be far far above the likes of kiku and kinemon which would fuck him up.
 
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