Questions & Mysteries Yonkous are not as strong as people made them out to be?

[Balen]

Don't get me wrong, they are good, but admirals never got hurt, yet yonkous get humiliated every chance they get. Laidou with scabbards, big mom kicked down by king and by jimbei, shankas lost his arm to lord of the coast, wb in war.

Kaido fell from 10,000 meters
luffy fell from 25,000 meters onto his ship(zunisha) does that make luffy<kaido?
Just because yonko were hurt doesn't mean they are weak, we've seen how terrifyingly strong they are

 

[Natalija]

They get humiliated because Oda likes to make BM and Kaido a meme. But clowning and strength are two different concepts.

Basically they just take up any damage going their way without bothering to dodge - they're very strong.

In addition Whitebeard and Shanks were never humiliated.

 

[Uncle Van]

Admirals never got humiliated cause they've never been the main antagonist of an arc yet. Admirals can easily be nerfed cause of their DF powers and duties(put them in an area that they have to protect and give them a personality that can be reasoned with). BM and Kaido however are psychos who dont give a damn so some blatant PIS is tossed in making them look like idiots.

Rayleigh was used for nerfed Kizaru....Aokiji's morals was used against him....morals was used against nerfed Fujitora.....Kaido? PIS to allow the scabbards to ambush him despite Kaido having plenty of time to react.....BM? A sickness that drains her strength so that even Chopper and Nami can survive encounters with her.

 

[Zara]

There's going to be many scenes in the final war where Oda will make the Admirals look silly for the sake of plot just like he's done with the Yonko.

Story > Powerlevels in Oda's mind. No character is safe from it.

 

[HA001]

There's going to be many scenes in the final war where Oda will make the Admirals look silly for the sake of plot just like he's done with the Yonko.

Story > Powerlevels in Oda's mind. No character is safe from it.

Doubt it. Their opponents will be top tiers then no need for pis

 

[Uncle Van]

Doubt it. Their opponents will be top tiers then no need for pis

Kaido when fighting Oden
-taunts after blasting Oden instead of continuing the assault
-Doesnt use haki for some reason
-Just floats there as Oden leaps dozens of meters into the air to cut him

Akainu when fighting WB
-Aims for the chest with a small move instead of aiming for the chest or tossing a large move
-Walks away for no reason

Kizaru when fighting WB
-Aims for the chest instead of the head
-Uses small attacks instead of big ones
-Walks away for no reason

 

[HA001]

Kaido when fighting Oden
-taunts after blasting Oden instead of continuing the assault
-Doesnt use haki for some reason
-Just floats there as Oden leaps dozens of meters into the air to cut him

Akainu when fighting WB
-Aims for the chest with a small move instead of aiming for the chest or tossing a large move
-Walks away for no reason

Kizaru when fighting WB
-Aims for the chest instead of the head
-Uses small attacks instead of big ones
-Walks away for no reason

Duh pretty obvious
Oden akainu and kizaru werent meant to be the ones to beat them.
When we see the admirals fight whoever they will be fighting them will be the ones to win.

 

[Uncle Van]

Duh pretty obvious
Oden akainu and kizaru werent meant to be the ones to beat them.
When we see the admirals fight whoever they will be fighting them will be the ones to win.

All of Luffy's opponents were affected by PIS and I just gave you an example of how top tiers are affected by PIS as well. I highly doubt we'll get pure 1v1s in a war scenario. Oda loves to off panel and use plot to weaken characters quickly.

 

[HA001]

All of Luffy's opponents were affected by PIS and I just gave you an example of how top tiers are affected by PIS as well. I highly doubt we'll get pure 1v1s in a war scenario. Oda loves to off panel and use plot to weaken characters quickly.

Cause luffy is meant to be the under Dog but he cant be that forever.

 

[Uncle Van]

Cause luffy is meant to be the under Dog but he cant be that forever.

That doesnt address what I said

 

[HA001]

That doesnt address what I said

Oda wont offscreen the final war. It will be top tiers vs top tiers no pis needed.

 

[comrade]

Rayleigh was used for nerfed Kizaru

What do you mean with nerfed Kizaru?

 

[Uncle Van]

Oda wont offscreen the final war. It will be top tiers vs top tiers no pis needed.

Given how almost every battle so far has PIS and pure 1v1s is one of the most rare occurrences in the series, also given the fact Oda himself said he likes to off panel fights to focus on the story, there's no evidence for me to believe you.

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What do you mean with nerfed Kizaru?

Fodder marines told Kizaru to restrain himself as his moves were causing collateral damage. He never did anything like that again

 

[HA001]

Given how almost every battle so far has PIS and pure 1v1s is one of the most rare occurrences in the series, also given the fact Oda himself said he likes to off panel fights to focus on the story, there's no evidence for me to believe you.

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Fodder marines told Kizaru to restrain himself as his moves were causing collateral damage. He never did anything like that again

You think the fights with admirals which luffy and zoro will likely be a part of will be offscreened ?

 

[Uncle Van]

You think the fights with admirals which luffy and zoro will likely be a part of will be offscreened ?

A great chunk of it like lots of other battles so yeah. Same for Luffy vs BB. Top tiers can fight for days.....lots of plot is gonna be required to end them quickly.

Jack for example could fight for 5 days. Same for Jinbe. I highly doubt they will fight that long in Wano.

 

[Cherry Hilk]

Yonkos are absolutely overpowered and I don’t understand why Kaido is being disrespected that much as of lately.
Someone can tell me how getting barely hurt by a surprise attack of 4-5 people that are roughly commander level +5-4 other strong people should be counted as an embarrassment?

 

[HA001]

Yonkos are absolutely overpowered and I don’t understand why Kaido is being disrespected that much as of lately.
Someone can tell me how getting barely hurt by a surprised attack of 4-5 people that are roughly commander level +5-4 other strong people should be count as an embarrassment?

Because he got hurt by kiku and kinemon who jumped forward 20 years

 

[Dread Pirate]

Because he got hurt by kiku and kinemon who jumped forward 20 years

This is why it’s a deliberate troll by Oda...you could of had two of the stronger scabbards cut him and somewhat justify the damage, but to have 2 of the weaker ones do it is hilarious.

 

[kom5]

Akainu using Haki to counter, that’s not the same case with Kaido. If multiple AcoA users attack an admiral, without him blocking they’d get pierced. You only need basic haki to bypass logia intangibility.

Here an 2 executive level attack him and he sees as nuinsance there haki cant even touch him and then the commanders failed to overpower him

 

[Fujishiro]

Because he got hurt by kiku and kinemon who jumped forward 20 years

Hasnt it been established that if you have the technique you can hurt him or are you just ignoring that ? Wasnt WB getting stabbed by fodders too? Is he a fraud too ?
I want to follow your logic here.
Are you saying hes a fraud because he got hurt by something that was said in manga by oda himself that can hurt him. Are you going to just ignore manga facts and keep spouting this same sentence over and over?
Hurting him is fine, it goes along with preestablished rules of haki, he didnt even get damage much if at all.