Zhao's All-Time Top 10 Generals
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We all know that Shibashou is going to be a complete Lad (this is one level above Chad) especially in a fight as his sheer size has been hyped several times, and his four subordinate commanders are all monstrous warriors themselves, Shibashou is surely going to be the new martial might of Zhao.
I’m curious as to whether or not Jiaga will actually be a stronger warrior than Shibashou though. The SENSE translation had Jiaga referenced as Seika’s strongest warrior, with no exceptions made like “Seika’s strongest except for Shibashou”, just straight up Jiaga was called Seika’s strongest.
Maybe he and Shibashou will be equals or something? I think it’s interesting that Jiaga was referenced this way.
I’m curious as to whether or not Jiaga will actually be a stronger warrior than Shibashou though. The SENSE translation had Jiaga referenced as Seika’s strongest warrior, with no exceptions made like “Seika’s strongest except for Shibashou”, just straight up Jiaga was called Seika’s strongest.
Maybe he and Shibashou will be equals or something? I think it’s interesting that Jiaga was referenced this way.
The Rinshoujo army was a scary one. You had the Ten Heroes (Ten!), including Gyou’Un and Chou Ga Ryuu as Rinshoujo's subordinates, while Rinshoujo himself was one of the greatest warfare minds (and in the little panel time Hara gave him, he was shown making Ouki move according to his wishes and having Renpa "dance in the palm of his hand", though as an ally). Scary dude lol.
I def think SBS will be a beast. And for me is a solid top 4 and above anyone else.
For me Riboku and Renpa are solid too 2.
But RSJ had insane hype too. The guy was Reno’s equal, had insane smart and stats and even his subs were amazing.
SBS general are great but are they better than the 10 heroes ? Maybe, maybe not, let’s see. But Gyou Un CGR and co were beasts too.
RSJ had such a hype with his dream to unite China. If he had lived I think he would have been THE major threat for Qin and Sei. The phantasmal General was someone.
And his subordinates were so loyal they all killed themselves in battle later on or kept his ideal/vow for decades.
I think for now it’s
Riboku
Renpa
RSJ
SBS
But SBS will be a monster and will deliver soon
For me Riboku and Renpa are solid too 2.
But RSJ had insane hype too. The guy was Reno’s equal, had insane smart and stats and even his subs were amazing.
SBS general are great but are they better than the 10 heroes ? Maybe, maybe not, let’s see. But Gyou Un CGR and co were beasts too.
RSJ had such a hype with his dream to unite China. If he had lived I think he would have been THE major threat for Qin and Sei. The phantasmal General was someone.
And his subordinates were so loyal they all killed themselves in battle later on or kept his ideal/vow for decades.
I think for now it’s
Riboku
Renpa
RSJ
SBS
But SBS will be a monster and will deliver soon
If we're being honest though who would have beaten Renpa and the 4HK? That army was disgustingly powerful.
Give them equal subordinates and we'll see how that goes. I see Riboku's strategical ability making the superior moves/maneuvers and giving him the edge.
Then again Renpa is a strategical beast and can also use his insticts to fight as an instictual general. He perfectly read the moves of Ousen against Kyouen and he was the one drawing the plan against the Qin instead of Genpou lol.
While I would go with Riboku here, I also feel like Renpa could have less trouble than Riboku directly fighting Kanki due to those different facets that he has as a general. He's the most versatile general we have seen.
Give them equal subordinates and we'll see how that goes. I see Riboku's strategical ability making the superior moves/maneuvers and giving him the edge.
Then again Renpa is a strategical beast and can also use his insticts to fight as an instictual general. He perfectly read the moves of Ousen against Kyouen and he was the one drawing the plan against the Qin instead of Genpou lol.
While I would go with Riboku here, I also feel like Renpa could have less trouble than Riboku directly fighting Kanki due to those different facets that he has as a general. He's the most versatile general we have seen.
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1. Riboku
2. Renpa
3. RSJ
4. I'm going to assume Chousha
5. Shibasho - he may be higher than this, time will tell.
These guys are on a level to themselves. Following that, we have a group together who would be hard to rank;
Keisha
Gyou'un
Kochou
Gakujoe
Really don't know for a 10th. There's another group of them - Chougaryu, Bananji, Kaishibou etc. SSJ too. Kansaro has to be factored in.
2. Renpa
3. RSJ
4. I'm going to assume Chousha
5. Shibasho - he may be higher than this, time will tell.
These guys are on a level to themselves. Following that, we have a group together who would be hard to rank;
Keisha
Gyou'un
Kochou
Gakujoe
Really don't know for a 10th. There's another group of them - Chougaryu, Bananji, Kaishibou etc. SSJ too. Kansaro has to be factored in.
Okay, time for my list.
-The top 5 is made up by Riboku, Renpa, RSJ, Chousa and Shibashou.
-Next, Keisha. Riboku previously considered him as the most terrifying instinctual general, he beat Riboku a fair few times in war games, was Great Heaven talk and had impressive feats in the story. Keisha is weaker than the first five names but stronger than the other members of this list.
-Then I put Kochou and Genpo. Kochou was a Zhao's GG while Genpo one of Heavenly Kings. Kochou was the commander of Zhao's military for a section of the story and though we didn't see much from him, he clearly demonstrated a very good military mind. Genpo taught Renpa strategy, his knowledge of warfare was so great that he was said to be a strategist of such impressive level that he was capable of serving as the head of military affairs for Zhao's entire military. And we got a few demonstrations of his ability in the Sanyou arc.
Both Kochou and Genpo were ended by Kanki's unorthodox methods but they were very strong commanders.
-Gaku Jou. He was, apparently, counted to be the second best general in Zhao after Renpa. He got destroyed by Renpa whilst being 50k vs 8k but, there are some things to say here. First, I'll start by saying that yes, Renpa is obviously in a different league from him as a commander and he said it too. Despite how bad that loss might look at first, we also have to consider that :
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That leaves one spot. I'm going to give it to either Kyouen or Gyou’Un. These guys are all very strong subordinates of Great Heavens.
- Kyou En, one of the Ten Bows, was described as Renpa's even match in the past, fought Renpa and burnt his hands numerous times, fought four of the Qin Six, including Hakuki, who he found the most troublesome to face, and Kyou, where the heavily offense tactics of both caused a lot of deaths. This guy's portrayal is big lol.
- Gyou'un. A dangerous instinctual commander who was kicking the butt of Ten and who was a big problem for strategists, who yet had knowledge of strategies thanks to RSJ, who used lethal techniques such as the Raikogu and also a very strong warrior. He had some excellent feats at Shukai.
-The top 5 is made up by Riboku, Renpa, RSJ, Chousa and Shibashou.
-Next, Keisha. Riboku previously considered him as the most terrifying instinctual general, he beat Riboku a fair few times in war games, was Great Heaven talk and had impressive feats in the story. Keisha is weaker than the first five names but stronger than the other members of this list.
-Then I put Kochou and Genpo. Kochou was a Zhao's GG while Genpo one of Heavenly Kings. Kochou was the commander of Zhao's military for a section of the story and though we didn't see much from him, he clearly demonstrated a very good military mind. Genpo taught Renpa strategy, his knowledge of warfare was so great that he was said to be a strategist of such impressive level that he was capable of serving as the head of military affairs for Zhao's entire military. And we got a few demonstrations of his ability in the Sanyou arc.
Both Kochou and Genpo were ended by Kanki's unorthodox methods but they were very strong commanders.
-Gaku Jou. He was, apparently, counted to be the second best general in Zhao after Renpa. He got destroyed by Renpa whilst being 50k vs 8k but, there are some things to say here. First, I'll start by saying that yes, Renpa is obviously in a different league from him as a commander and he said it too. Despite how bad that loss might look at first, we also have to consider that :
- Renpa likely had all his Heavenly Kings too in the battle. At the very least, he had Rinko. The HKs are monsters themselves and, with Renpa, this is a perfect receipit for distruction.
- Renpa himself praised Gaku Jou's warfare as "quite good", added that "many a time, it would give even me the chills". He finished with "compared with those Qin bastards, it satisifies me 60%".
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That leaves one spot. I'm going to give it to either Kyouen or Gyou’Un. These guys are all very strong subordinates of Great Heavens.
- Kyou En, one of the Ten Bows, was described as Renpa's even match in the past, fought Renpa and burnt his hands numerous times, fought four of the Qin Six, including Hakuki, who he found the most troublesome to face, and Kyou, where the heavily offense tactics of both caused a lot of deaths. This guy's portrayal is big lol.
- Gyou'un. A dangerous instinctual commander who was kicking the butt of Ten and who was a big problem for strategists, who yet had knowledge of strategies thanks to RSJ, who used lethal techniques such as the Raikogu and also a very strong warrior. He had some excellent feats at Shukai.
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In general, I tend to believe that all of the Heavenly Kings are underrated. They are each, truly powerful Generals.
However I think Gyou'un is a level above all 4. He's somehow who would fit in as a Fire Dragon without question and his hype was above the rest, IMO. I think the HK's are more like Chougaryu, which is still brilliant, of course.
Gakujoe is certainly underrated. He was ranked above Kochou, after all. I'd like to have seen his stats.
I certainly hope we will see Renpa fight for Chu but for whatever reason I kinda think we won't!
However I think Gyou'un is a level above all 4. He's somehow who would fit in as a Fire Dragon without question and his hype was above the rest, IMO. I think the HK's are more like Chougaryu, which is still brilliant, of course.
Gakujoe is certainly underrated. He was ranked above Kochou, after all. I'd like to have seen his stats.
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I certainly hope we will see Renpa fight for Chu but for whatever reason I kinda think we won't!
1. Riboku (obvious)
2. Renpa (obvious)
3. Rinshoujou (obvious)
4. Chou Sha (OG Great Heavens)
5. Shibashou (reject the title of GH, that's giga lol)
6. Keisha (was the closest to GH when Kochou and Gakujou were still on active duty)
7. Gakujou (underrated tbh, man was the second best general during Renpa and Kochou's time)
8. Kochou (Guardian Deity)
9. Genpo (big brain)
10. Futei-sama (future Great Heavens baby!!!)
Houken, Gyou'Un, Bananji, SSJ, CGR, Rinko, Kaishibou are contenders for number 10 spot. And I don't even know who Chou Haku are Lmao.
2. Renpa (obvious)
3. Rinshoujou (obvious)
4. Chou Sha (OG Great Heavens)
5. Shibashou (reject the title of GH, that's giga lol)
6. Keisha (was the closest to GH when Kochou and Gakujou were still on active duty)
7. Gakujou (underrated tbh, man was the second best general during Renpa and Kochou's time)
8. Kochou (Guardian Deity)
9. Genpo (big brain)
10. Futei-sama (future Great Heavens baby!!!)
Houken, Gyou'Un, Bananji, SSJ, CGR, Rinko, Kaishibou are contenders for number 10 spot. And I don't even know who Chou Haku are Lmao.