Break Week ZKK Wasn't a "Baseless" or "Delusional" Theory
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"I don't remember" isn't a good point lmao. Even worse because you say always has been.
Go Google it if you don't actually own the media, you're obviously just fighting against the idea of conceding that you're wrong about your made up definition of victory.
And for the last time, that's not an argument Oda makes. If the story says that Luffy didn't kill Kaido then it is true by its own reasoning, whether I like it or not. But until Oda says that, you're just wasting time with headcanon. ZKK didn't come true, but for now the "Straw Hats don't kill" argument has been debunked.
Go Google it if you don't actually own the media, you're obviously just fighting against the idea of conceding that you're wrong about your made up definition of victory.
And for the last time, that's not an argument Oda makes. If the story says that Luffy didn't kill Kaido then it is true by its own reasoning, whether I like it or not. But until Oda says that, you're just wasting time with headcanon. ZKK didn't come true, but for now the "Straw Hats don't kill" argument has been debunked.
Because that has nothing to do with what i was saying about winning or losing in 1vs1 context 
Obviously not, but you are adamant in your cope so...just keep coping, I think.
I already debunked you form the start when I said no mugy have killed a character directly and on screen. Obviously, since you are coping, you not only failed to produce evidence but also started a rumbling about how this is not important for you even thought what you personally think about this is totally irrelevant since I was just point out an objective thing lol.
Thanks, so a bit of both and not a real parallel, as I imagined.
Obviously not, but you are adamant in your cope so...just keep coping, I think.
I already debunked you form the start when I said no mugy have killed a character directly and on screen. Obviously, since you are coping, you not only failed to produce evidence but also started a rumbling about how this is not important for you even thought what you personally think about this is totally irrelevant since I was just point out an objective thing lol.
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Thanks, so a bit of both and not a real parallel, as I imagined.
Right, and I can only speak for myself but I specifically referenced the same thing as far back as 1010
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-color-of-the-supreme-king.12899/post-1314591
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-color-of-the-supreme-king.12899/post-1314591
As I said, I can only speak for myself although a lot of people also happened to have a thought that Kaido would go berserk after defeat due to awakening or something like that. Funny that a regular human in East Blue did and none of the top Beasts did lol.
The idea wasn't that Zoro would steal the glory or whatever it was, just finish him off. Slay a dragon, not a real emperor. I don't remember who said he'd finish off an enemy that Luffy couldn't really handle.
The idea wasn't that Zoro would steal the glory or whatever it was, just finish him off. Slay a dragon, not a real emperor. I don't remember who said he'd finish off an enemy that Luffy couldn't really handle.
Tell me someone read the series for years and believed in this stupid theory. It wouldn't even register in the brain to think of such nonsense. Oda even said early on that he didn't even know how to defeat/kill Kaido but yeah Zoro will definitely kill him lmao.
I guess that's what happens when you're a Zolol stan.
I guess that's what happens when you're a Zolol stan.
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As much as we get called delusional, or its a dumb theory, etc I simply think we were too early oda laid some ground work and we jumped on it.
One of the main factors, but not as deep was kaido being a awakened zoan ,and needing to be put down permanently ,and yet we left wano not knowing if he is alive or dead nor do we know if he was awakened as he got knocked down and never returned.
I do still believe in the theory, and i without a doubt still believe oda will give zoro his hype in regards to ryuma etc. oda to me at least is way to good of a writer to just let those plot points be there for no reason he always shocks us in ways we don't expect.
This ultimately is luffy show, oda gave him joyboy power up and direct parallel to ryuma in the end, and while this never bothered me personally I can only think that when oda does decide to make that callback for zoro on a grander scale there will be no more denying it lol
joyboy and ryuma are equals
luffy and zoro are equals
Also one more thing if kaido does return and people see him two big things to point out will be his horn broke and the bigger scar adding to the luffy and zoro hype.
One of the main factors, but not as deep was kaido being a awakened zoan ,and needing to be put down permanently ,and yet we left wano not knowing if he is alive or dead nor do we know if he was awakened as he got knocked down and never returned.
I do still believe in the theory, and i without a doubt still believe oda will give zoro his hype in regards to ryuma etc. oda to me at least is way to good of a writer to just let those plot points be there for no reason he always shocks us in ways we don't expect.
This ultimately is luffy show, oda gave him joyboy power up and direct parallel to ryuma in the end, and while this never bothered me personally I can only think that when oda does decide to make that callback for zoro on a grander scale there will be no more denying it lol
joyboy and ryuma are equals
luffy and zoro are equals
Also one more thing if kaido does return and people see him two big things to point out will be his horn broke and the bigger scar adding to the luffy and zoro hype.
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Zoro not facing Kaido when he got the magical sword to face him (like Link from Zelda with Master sword to face Ganon) was delusional
ZKK theory became EXTREMELY delusional After zoro got his 1 vs 1 with King and slaced a magma dragon.
That established that Zoro wouldn't have done that Just some chapters later again, he had his moment.
ZKK theory became EXTREMELY delusional After zoro got his 1 vs 1 with King and slaced a magma dragon.
That established that Zoro wouldn't have done that Just some chapters later again, he had his moment.
It was completely baseless because no matter how many theories you make or parallels you look for, the strongest creature in the world was not losing to anyone besides the main character, it's really just that simple. But if you said Luffy was the main character alot of ZKK cultists would say you were retarded for that being your only argument as if you needed any others.
Mother fuckers gaslit themselves into believing Zoro was the main character.
Mother fuckers gaslit themselves into believing Zoro was the main character.
ZKK wasn't about Zoro defeating Kaido but Zoro killing him.
The expectation was that Luffy would overcome Kaido in combat and Zoro would slay Kaido afterwards.
Anyway, I'm not salty that ZKK didn't happen and don't really want to argue that it should have happened.
I'm mostly pushing back against the meme of using ZKK as a metaphor for wacky, harebrained theories that people are throwing around.
The expectation was that Luffy would overcome Kaido in combat and Zoro would slay Kaido afterwards.
Anyway, I'm not salty that ZKK didn't happen and don't really want to argue that it should have happened.
I'm mostly pushing back against the meme of using ZKK as a metaphor for wacky, harebrained theories that people are throwing around.
ZKK was perfection, I dont know how he could abandon all the build up and call it a day, lmao.
Those who pretend that a build-up bigger than any other doesnt exist are just coping, it is there.
Nothing was solved the way he ended Wano, all the issues are still there and only ZKK can end them.
If by some miracle he finds a better way to still do it, fine but it really made the end of a 4 year long arc look like amateur writing skills, as if some Rupeebro took over and said >bigPanchi, lessGo!!! And closed the curtains, lol. The lowest point of One Piece for sure.
Those who pretend that a build-up bigger than any other doesnt exist are just coping, it is there.
Nothing was solved the way he ended Wano, all the issues are still there and only ZKK can end them.
If by some miracle he finds a better way to still do it, fine but it really made the end of a 4 year long arc look like amateur writing skills, as if some Rupeebro took over and said >bigPanchi, lessGo!!! And closed the curtains, lol. The lowest point of One Piece for sure.