Powers & Abilities Zoro and the Scabbards

[ShishioIsBack]

Enma Zoro mid diffs Ashura Doji tops. Anything beyond that is wishful thinking.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

But a little skirmish, and one attack by Killer was enough for Zoro to pass out thanks to hunger or a tummy ache. Call it what you want but it doesnt really make much of a difference, does it mean that's his limit under natural conditions? No, but it's a bad look for Zoro either way.

What bad look? Zoro one-shotted Killer. I repeat, Zoro one-shotted a WG supernova. And he did it with a low-tier attack from his arsenal. If you want to discredit his durability, you have to give him credit for his incredible attack power. Cant have it both ways.

 

[nik87]

When you hand out "Ls" so casually you gotta pump your chest out and accept them when you recieve them. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

What L's are you talking about?

 

[ZenZu]

What bad look? Zoro one-shotted Killer. I repeat, Zoro one-shotted a WG supernova. And he did it with a low-tier attack from his arsenal. If you want to discredit his durability, you have to give him credit for his incredible attack power. Cant have it both ways.

Wasn't talking about his attack power. Talking about how easily he fell after that. Why I gave examples of characters in arguably worse conditions staying on their feat. It was a very odd choice by Oda to say the least, can't say I wasn't shocked but it is what it is.

 

[ZoroGang]

Wasn't talking about his attack power. Talking about how easily he fell after that. Why I gave examples of characters in arguably worse conditions staying on their feat. It was a very odd choice by Oda to say the least, can't say I wasn't shocked but it is what it is.

Other characters stay on there feet for as long as they are in battle. Zoro finished his fight so he fell asleep just like luffy does when he gets grave injuries

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Still waiting for someone to answer me how is Ashura even above Pre Enma Zoro ?

 

[ZenZu]

Other characters stay on there feet for as long as they are in battle. Zoro finished his fight so he fell asleep just like luffy does when he gets grave injuries

Sure he chose to fall asleep despite the thief who stole his treasured blade running away infront of him. The real reason he was even at the ringo bridge in the first place.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Wasn't talking about his attack power. Talking about how easily he fell after that. Why I gave examples of characters in arguably worse conditions staying on their feat. It was a very odd choice by Oda to say the least, can't say I wasn't shocked but it is what it is.

Why exactly is passing out in One Piece where human top tiers die from stabs from fodders is a bad thing when the endurance is all about will power and adrenaline rush?

Did Luffy hit the bucket from a hody bite despite using Haki to block that shit while never pass out against Doflamingo and Katakuri (Well he passed out against Kata after fight ended, again cuz his adrenaline rush ended).

There is literally nothing wrong with him passing out from a lung stab when Luffy has kicked the bucket from something much weaker while using Haki to block that shit. Luffy's durability didn't go that much higher in the span of two month max in universe time, not to mention his Hakiless durability sure as hell didn't sky rocket his Haki durability in the span of a two months.

 

[Bogard]

What people don't understand is that no one is claiming Zoro is below or even as strong as Killer or something. He was matching KIller just fine with nitoryu and Oda had to use an excuse for Killer to land the hit(distraction coming from the fox), and did manage to one shot Killer afterwards with santoryu, but the fact is that his endurance display at that moment was very pathetic and there is no excuse about it, with the stomach ache excuse reminiscing the Sanji-Usopp level injuries that were up to date in the Vergo debates, which sounds like a great amount of double standard

Wasn't talking about his attack power. Talking about how easily he fell after that. Why I gave examples of characters in arguably worse conditions staying on their feat. It was a very odd choice by Oda to say the least, can't say I wasn't shocked but it is what it is.

I was shocked too lol, but it's what it is

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Wasn't talking about his attack power. Talking about how easily he fell after that. Why I gave examples of characters in arguably worse conditions staying on their feat. It was a very odd choice by Oda to say the least, can't say I wasn't shocked but it is what it is.

Yeah, Its a shame that we went from "nothing happened" to this bullshit. I guess Oda didnt want to spend too many panels on this fight, we have more important stuff in Wano. He also didnt want to hand an L to Killer so badly, after all this guy is from WG. So Zoro had to go down to prove Killer is not a scrub. Thats the only explanation I can think of.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

afterwards with santoryu, but the fact is that his endurance display at that moment was very pathetic and there is no excuse about it, with the stomach ache excuse reminiscing the Sanji-Usopp level injuries that were up to date in the Vergo debates, which sounds like a great amount of double standard

Anyone who is making stomach ache excuse is desperate as fuck clutching at straws.

With that said literally nothing wrong with passing out from what could be a stab to lungs when Luffy needed a blood from a fish to live through a bite from another fish.

 

[ZoroGang]

Sure he chose to fall asleep despite the thief who stole his treasured blade running away infront of him. The real reason he was even at the ringo bridge in the first place.

Plot

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Lmaoo wasn't Zoro not even giving many fucks even after he woke up and was like "Oh Shushui, yeah its aaight, imma go get it later"?

Adrenaline rush was against Killer. Once he cut him he relaxed and passed out.

Doesn't change the fact that Zoro in Thriller Bark embarrassed Luffy endurance wise and endured internal torture for hours.

 

[ZenZu]

Plot

Try letting this excuse pass the next time you are debating a Sanji fan. See how it goes.

 

[Zowo]

Try letting this excuse pass the next time you are debating a Sanji fan. See how it goes.

Plot Plot Plot

 

[ZoroGang]

Try letting this excuse pass the next time you are debating a Sanji fan. See how it goes.

Sanji fans have no grounds to be arguing at this point in the manga. All of us have read mangas other then one piece we recognize what’s going on wth Sanji from this point forwards hes not comparable to luffy and zoro

 

[Zowo]

Sanji fans have no grounds to be arguing at this point in the manga. All of us have read mangas other then one piece we recognize what’s going on wth Sanji from this point forwards hes not comparable to luffy and zoro

sanji ain t no longer in the monster trio even toei recognized that in stampede he tag teamed with brook against smoker

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

Try letting this excuse pass the next time you are debating a Sanji fan. See how it goes.

The thing is, it's not an inaccurate statement. Later in the arc Zoro will suffer a shitload more damage against his end of arc opponent. Will Zoro go from endurance level 10 pre-ts, to 2 in Wano, back up to 10 at the end of the arc? It's pretty obvious that Zoro fainted so he could eventually get Enma from Hiyori.

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

The stomach-ache or diarrhea excuse was too much thoughhahaha

 

[ZenZu]

The thing is, it's not an inaccurate statement. Later in the arc Zoro will suffer a shitload more damage against his end of arc opponent. Will Zoro go from endurance level 10 pre-ts, to 2 in Wano, back up to 10 at the end of the arc? It's pretty obvious that Zoro fainted so he could eventually get Enma from Hiyori.

Sure, but that's on the author to write a better way to hand Zoro enma, there are countless ways to do it. My takeaway from that scene isn't really Zoro has weak endurance, it's Oda doesn't respect Zoro enough to not have him fall in that manner. I can't see someone like Doflamingo, Katakuri any one on that level or even close to it being placed in that situation by Oda, they're handled with more care when it comes to their power. Disappointed Zoro was used in such a manner.

Like Nidai said, a bit of it had to be saving face for Killer, but then again there would be no need to save face for Killer if he got bodied by a commander level character (like Mingo) so that there tells me a lot.