Character Discussion "Zoro beat Mihawk during the Timeskip."

#64
Where is the scan Luffy telling Franky to stop Big mom dumbass?

Franky attacked Big mom on his own first ZKKtard.

Rakuyo attacked Kizaru too doesn't mean Marco told him to do it, then Jinbe+Robin was helping Franky too. Luffy saying he can trust Franky doesn't mean Luffy sending Franky alone to stop her lmao. :milaugh:

Guess who couldn't attack Admirals alone in Marineford?

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...irals-and-his-ap-is-weaker-than-marcos.18330/



Yup Vista.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#65
Where is the scan Luffy telling Franky to stop Big mom dumbass?

Franky attacked Big mom on his own first ZKKtard, then Jinbe+Robin was helping him too. Luffy saying he can trust Franky doesn't mean Luffy sending Franky alone to stop her lmao. :milaugh:

Guess who couldn't attack Admirals alone in Marineford?

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...irals-and-his-ap-is-weaker-than-marcos.18330/



Yup Vista.

Debunked bug eyes

Luffy literally left yonko meme to franky and nami
She is even screaming as he runs away
 
#68
Guess who could stop Emperor level Kaido alone?
Yup Yamato.
At this point, there is no way for you to shit on Mihawk without it coming back to bite you in the ass.
Especially for a Blackbeard fan. There is plenty of dirt on 99% of characters. :catsure:
Now Lik and La01 sucking each other I sure made these dumb ZKK clowns desperate :milaugh:

Clown, the point is someone should order them. Rakuyo or Curiel attacks Admirals too, thats not ordered. Jozu stopped Aokiji same way, WB didn't tell him to do it clown. WB was fighting Aokiji first, Jozu simply interfered 2 different things.

Debunked bug eyes

Luffy literally left yonko meme to franky and nami
She is even screaming as he runs away
You bitches too dumb. Rakuyo attacks Admiral, Jozu attacks Aokiji, WB didn't order that shit.

Ordering it is taking full responsibility, those guys attack them on their own LMAO, Luffy didn't leave anything there are many fighters out there to help Franky dumbass, these dumb clowns are so desperate literally they are lying and they know it :milaugh:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#69
Now Lik and La01 sucking each other I sure made these dumb ZKK clowns desperate :milaugh:

Clown, the point is someone should order them. Rakuyo or Curiel attacks Admirals too, thats not ordered. Jozu stopped Aokiji same way, WB didn't tell him to do it clown. WB was fighting Aokiji first, Jozu simply interfered 2 different things.
The only desperate one here is you as no matter what cope you come up with, I can counter it. :milaugh:
Who cares if someone orders them or not? The point is that Mihawk was stopped by Vista while Kaido was stopped by Yamato.
And unlike Mihawk, Kaido was actually trying which makes your precious Emperor level look far worse than Mihawk.
However, keep trying. You are not the president of Crying Six for no reason. :zosmug:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#70
Now Lik and La01 sucking each other I sure made these dumb ZKK clowns desperate :milaugh:

Clown, the point is someone should order them. Rakuyo or Curiel attacks Admirals too, thats not ordered. Jozu stopped Aokiji same way, WB didn't tell him to do it clown. WB was fighting Aokiji first, Jozu simply interfered 2 different things.

You bitches too dumb. Rakuyo attacks Admiral, Jozu attacks Aokiji, WB didn't order that shit.

Ordering it is taking full responsibility, those guys attack them on their own LMAO, Luffy didn't leave anything there are many fighters out there to help Franky dumbass, these dumb clowns are so desperate literally they are lying and they know it :milaugh:
Why tf you deflecting elsewhere bug eyes


Luffy left yonko meme to fight franky and nami

Marco took zoro to fight yonko kaido

Keep both eyes on this topic
 
#71
Why tf you deflecting elsewhere bug eyes


Luffy left yonko meme to fight franky and nami

Marco took zoro to fight yonko kaido

Keep both eyes on this topic
Deflecting: ignoring the situations that Luffy has a bigger fish to fry (Kaido), same as Marco had bigger fish to fry (Admiral>Mihawk).

Deflecting no2: Literally Luffy never said Franky should solo Big mom while Marco told Vista he should solo Mihawk, Franky cheapshot Big mom and temporarily stops her, Jinbe+Robin goes to help Franky, Luffy says he could trust Franky, trust him for what? Cheap-shot stopping her for a while so Jinbe and others could attack Big mom too.

You clowns are desperate af about Mihawk vs Vista situation and you know it don't lie :milaugh:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#72
Deflecting: ignoring the situations that Luffy has a bigger fish to fry (Kaido), same as Marco had bigger fish to fry (Admiral>Mihawk).

Deflecting no2: Literally Luffy never said Franky should solo Big mom while Marco told Vista he should solo Mihawk, Franky cheapshot Big mom and temporarily stops her, Jinbe+Robin goes to help Franky, Luffy says he could trust Franky, trust him for what? Cheap-shot stopping her for a while so Jinbe and others could attack Big mom too.

You clowns are desperate af about Mihawk vs Vista situation and you know it don't lie :milaugh:
More deflecting.

Luffy left a yonko to a bunch of people weaker than Vista.

Why you ignoring Marco telling zoro go fight yonko kaido with nothing better to do lmfao
 
#73
Since when does Naruto offscreen important events?

people really misremember what went wrong with Naruto and randomly conflate anything bad to “being like Naruto”… No… Naruto didn’t even end badly… It ended somewhat subpar but not outright badly… The Naruto vs Sasuke plotline is the by far much better written than anything Oda has written in the last decade or so

if Oda offscreens Zoro vs Mihawk, one piece will be WORSE than Naruto not “just as bad”
I'll bring Sasuke back no matter what.

I'll stop Sasuke from destroying Konoha no matter what.

Sasuke, we must fight to see who will be Hokage!

Are you high? That plot line went to shit the second Sasuke changed his mind about Konoha, and decided to become Hokage.

Kishimoto was legit building up Saskue to have an antagonistic battle with Naruto at the end, only to do a complete 180, switch up Sasukes goal, and turn it into a competition to see who would become the next Gen leader of the town Sasuke swore to destroy.

Naruto had nothing to do with bringing Sasuke back. Nothing to do with stopping him from destroying Konoha, and then fought him to see who would be the next Hokage.

This was a terrible rendition of the friends turned into enemies trope. Dude literally switched up the reason for them to fight not once, but twice.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#74
I'll bring Sasuke back no matter what.

I'll stop Sasuke from destroying Konoha no matter what.

Sasuke, we must fight to see who will be Hokage!

Are you high? That plot line went to shit the second Sasuke changed his mind about Konoha, and decided to become Hokage.

Kishimoto was legit building up Saskue to have an antagonistic battle with Naruto at the end, only to do a complete 180, switch up Sasukes goal, and turn it into a competition to see who would become the next Gen leader of the town Sasuke swore to destroy.

Naruto had nothing to do with bringing Sasuke back. Nothing to do with stopping him from destroying Konoha, and then fought him to see who would be the next Hokage.

This was a terrible rendition of the friends turned into mortal enemies trope.
Saskue was an avenger
 
#75
Saskue was an avenger
And he should have stuck to that till the end, and that should have been the reason him and Naruto fought. Instead all the rage was shifted to Danzo, and it was like the rest of the Village got a pass for having his entire clan wiped out.

That's like if Togashi decides "You know what? I'm gonna have turn out that Kurapikas clan was plotting something evil, which is why they were wiped out, and Kurapikas is going to forgive the Phantom Troupe and decide to lead them instead."
 
#76
And he should have stuck to that till the end, and that should have been the reason him and Naruto fought. Instead all the rage was shifted to Danzo, and it was like the rest of the Village got a pass for having his entire clan wiped out.

That's like if Togashi decides "You know what? I'm gonna have turn out that Kurapikas clan was plotting something evil, which is why they were wiped out, and Kurapikas is going to forgive the Phantom Troupe and decide to lead them instead."
pretty sure Itachi being a good guy was already a thing by near the end of the part 1 as the flashback makes the Uchiha clan look shady

so pretty early on we’re led to believe there’s a lot more to the story
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#77
pretty sure Itachi being a good guy was already a thing by near the end of the part 1 as the flashback makes the Uchiha clan look shady

so pretty early on we’re led to believe there’s a lot more to the story
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Itachi being a good guy was fine. Sasuke changing his mind about wanting to destroy Konoha would have been fine also, if he would have just teamed up with Naruto to end the war.

The problem was, is that Kishimoto still wanted to give Naruto and Sasuke a reason to fight, so he came up with "I'll just make Sasuke want to be Hokage" plot line. Either make them enemies or not. Don't just come up with something just so they still end up fighting.

That's where the ball was dropped on the Naruto/Sasuke plot line.
 
#78
A complete 180? Kishimoto literally resurrected Itachi specifically so that Sasuke can have a character arc that changes goals at the end of the story… this is called “Character development”… Maybe it seems weird to you since you’re only used to One piece where it doesn’t happen…

it’s actually possible for a story to challenge its main character’s beliefs and have the main character change even fundamental aspects of who they are based on like actual in story motivations and reasonings

btw, all in all the Edo Tensei shit did more harm than good to the story but a very clear VERY GOOD that came from that plot point was Itachi’s resurrection

My guy, there is a reason why the naruto and Sasuke dynamic has become iconic and repeated in all modern Shonen… This is by far the best thing Kishimoto has written and Oda would be LUCKY to do anything as good as this with any main character… Like not even Luffy could achieve any good character stuff that compares to this let alone Zoro or any other side character
 
#79
That's like if Togashi decides "You know what? I'm gonna have turn out that Kurapikas clan was plotting something evil, which is why they were wiped out, and Kurapikas is going to forgive the Phantom Troupe and decide to lead them instead."
It makes things worse since the Uchiha clan was oppressed for many many years until they no longer could endure it. Sasuke should have stuck to his plan to destroy the village, unlike his brother who helped them massacre his own clan (okay, Obito did a majority of that but still).
 
#80
More deflecting.

Luffy left a yonko to a bunch of people weaker than Vista.

Why you ignoring Marco telling zoro go fight yonko kaido with nothing better to do lmfao
Its blatant lying thats what you ZKKfans do all the time. No where in the manga Luffy says Franky should handle Big mom alone, he was talking about a panel Franky cheapshotted Big mom and kept her down with that cheapshot, Jinbe was already on the move to help Franky in the same page.

Luffy left an Emperor to a group Jinbe+Franky+Robin stronger than Vista, Luffy isn't blind he can see they are there to help clown. Luffy never ordered anyone to solo an Emperor and he only left that because he was busy with a stronger Emperor.

By comparing this situation to that you and now your ZKKfriend @nik87 just debunked yourself on your own as Marco had to deal with an Admiral so he left Mihawk to Vista.

Why Marco didn't take Mihawk and told Vista to handle Admiral if you clowns think Mihawk>Admiral? :milaugh:

Luffy only left Big mom to Jinbe+Franky and others because he was going after stronger the opponent Kaido.

:holdthisl:
 
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