Powers & Abilities Enma General Discussion Power-up / Black Blade
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I don't see why this is so complicated, the short answer is ''Yes'', if this was a game Enma clearly would have +X number stat, Zoro just claimed last chapter he isn't making full use of it yet instead of talking about his 3 swords as a whole so clearly he can pull off greater feats with it and this has been the case for ALL of the new swords Zoro has picked up in the series, people just seem to forget about it and single out Enma.
you are aware that this is kind of a contradiction, right?
what does Enma give Zoro that he does not already posses?
it did not. Zoro said it WASTED power.
the bigger slash was undesirable.
once Zoro learned to use Shusui the slash was the same size as Sandai and Wado.
so, training is the PU not the sword itself.
what does Enma give Zoro that he does not already posses?
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it did not. Zoro said it WASTED power.
the bigger slash was undesirable.
once Zoro learned to use Shusui the slash was the same size as Sandai and Wado.
so, training is the PU not the sword itself.
Well, I think you can answer that question yourself.
Tell me the difference between the same moves performed by swords of different grades.
What's the difference between Shishi Sonson performed by 2nd rank Wado Ichimonji compared to Shishi Sonson performed by 4th rank Sandai Kitetsu? Or difference between 720 Pound Ho performed by Shusui+Wado compared to 720pHo with Sandai Kitetsu+Shusui?
Tell me the difference between the same moves performed by swords of different grades.
What's the difference between Shishi Sonson performed by 2nd rank Wado Ichimonji compared to Shishi Sonson performed by 4th rank Sandai Kitetsu? Or difference between 720 Pound Ho performed by Shusui+Wado compared to 720pHo with Sandai Kitetsu+Shusui?
If this was Burning Blood 2 or Pirate Warriors 5 or some shit, the power up would be some special mode when you press R2, or involve a move you do in that mode, a full meter, etc. You won't have Raid Suit or Boundman on the character select unless it's a special option that doesn't replace base form. No game has you imbued with Haki as soon as you come off the loading screen. Those are power ups.
... meanwhile, picking Zoro with Enma in hand is just plain ass Zoro. No game really asks you if you want named swords.
... meanwhile, picking Zoro with Enma in hand is just plain ass Zoro. No game really asks you if you want named swords.
let's assume Zoro is a great sharpshooter
and Enma is a really really great gun
the gun makes the sharpshooter performance better ... we all know this ... weapon matter
and Enma can put Zoro's Haki in better use therefore giving him more firepower
Enma don't add to Zoro's strength
but adding to his firepower count as a power up
and Enma is a really really great gun
the gun makes the sharpshooter performance better ... we all know this ... weapon matter
and Enma can put Zoro's Haki in better use therefore giving him more firepower
Enma don't add to Zoro's strength
but adding to his firepower count as a power up
I mean ... when Zoro wanted to cut a tree and then he cut a cliff ... that did it for me ...
again ...
for me this argument is not important ... I guess people want to claim Zoro was stronger than Luffy since start of new world right?
well ... good for him if he was ... but I doubt Oda ever explain or state that ... and majority of fandom always disagree with it even if it be true ...
again ...
for me this argument is not important ... I guess people want to claim Zoro was stronger than Luffy since start of new world right?
well ... good for him if he was ... but I doubt Oda ever explain or state that ... and majority of fandom always disagree with it even if it be true ...
But that is the first usage of Enma when Zoro didnt know what it does...
He just now wanted to cut Kaido and barely did it, equally with all 3 swords...
The only difference is that Enma "wants" more Haki but that is pointless since Zoro isnt giving it more haki than he gives to the other two swords... The 3 sword style is pointless if you are using 80% haki on Enma while 10% on the other two swords each...
If Zoro wouldnt be able to stop Enma from taking his Haki, the PU argument would work but Zoro effectively neutralized the gimmick.
He just now wanted to cut Kaido and barely did it, equally with all 3 swords...
The only difference is that Enma "wants" more Haki but that is pointless since Zoro isnt giving it more haki than he gives to the other two swords... The 3 sword style is pointless if you are using 80% haki on Enma while 10% on the other two swords each...
If Zoro wouldnt be able to stop Enma from taking his Haki, the PU argument would work but Zoro effectively neutralized the gimmick.
Why doesn't it make sense? It's not like Roger shanks ray and WB are the absolute best at everything. None have shown FS so now does it not makes sense that kata has it? Zoro is gonna be the WSS and he's been focused on CoA with a goal post of turning his swords black. It would make no sense if zoro doesn't do it. And if oden could turn his blade black he would and same with the others. Permanent black blade is the best CoA that only 2 characters accomplished. Now I don't think zoro will do this at the end of wano since he seems to still be struggling controlling emma so naw.
It would require way to much effort to try and come up with a reasoning to match Oda's thought process on the matter until he explains it in full. But there obviously is a difference in the quality of a Grade weapon, and the correlation it has to a persons strength.
Zoro implied it in the Killer fight when he said he had to "Make do" with the Scythe, and Killer pretty much confirms it when he says that if he had his Punisher blades during that fight the outcome would have been different.
It wouldn't really make any sense to create a specific grading system in which the quality of Swords are measured if it had zero barring on the plot.
Zoro implied it in the Killer fight when he said he had to "Make do" with the Scythe, and Killer pretty much confirms it when he says that if he had his Punisher blades during that fight the outcome would have been different.
It wouldn't really make any sense to create a specific grading system in which the quality of Swords are measured if it had zero barring on the plot.
