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Greater Fact Delivery you mean.
No.

If he was using a sharp weapon and be on Zoro's level, Kaido would be dodging his attacks too.
Luffy casually uses Bound Man as if it's his G2 or G3.
I'm actually sure that Luffy has something up his sleeve to seriously injure Kaido.

I have to be honest, his Kong Gatling looks quite powerful.

Killer doesnt seem to have Ryo, the name of his attack implies that it is sound-based.
So Killer has a different way to bypass Kaido's skin.
That's fine, after all ID isn't really the only way to injure Kaido but it is necessary for Luffy to have it because Kaido usually tanks punches as Kidd pointed it out.

Kidd doesnt have Ryo either and isnt bypassing hard exterior and still does better than Kuri Luffy.
No, he really isn't.

That's also the reason why I'm currently disappointed with Kidd. He sure has a cool mecha design but it just mostly crashes Kaido onto the ground without dealing damage.
You say "Kidd's doing better than Kuri Luffy" but you clearly forgot that G3 Luffy already pummeled Kaido onto the ground as well. As long as Kidd doesn't deal damage, he's not doing better than Kuri Luffy.

I still believe that Kidd has another way to injure Kaido without ID. His magnetism could have hax which bypasses Kaido's skin as well.

Considering that Luffy is the only one skipping the hard exterior, he is performing quite badly.
Luffy tanked Kaido's Boro Breath point-blank while the latter was absolutely shocked.
How exactly is Luffy performing "quite badly"???

Comparing his offense to Zoro's which needs to be dodged by Kaido himself, is straight silly, always has been but you didn't believe it...
I agree, Zoro's offence was portrayed much stronger this chapter.
In addition, I always told you, if the manga shows the contrast, I'll revaluate my stance.
 
@ShishioIsBack Zoro said, how can he be the WSS if he cannot even help his captain become the PK. That means, when Zoro's power level is already enough to help Luffy achieve the PK status, it's not yet enough to be called the WSS.

:myman:
True True.
Also World Government specifically asked for Head of Pirate King yet Kuma was like "Oh WSS, that sounds even greater, I'll gladly take your head"
 
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Imagine Zoro seriously wounding Kaido if not even killing him, turning the blade black in the process (thus surpassing Oden) and after that remembering Mihawk and saying to himself "I'm catching up to you" or "soon I can face you".

:myman:

@ShishioIsBack @nik87 @HA001 @Sentinel @playa4321 @Finalbeta @Cinera
Zoro can seriously wound Kaido or deal the finishing blow as much as he wants he's still not going to solo Kaido or deal MOST of the damage against him.
The fight vs Mihawk WILL be a 1vs1.
 
why was he told to dodge it ?
why didnt meme tell him dodge anything else ?
why didnt she tell him dodge red roc when he let it hit him ?
why is this the first time in the series hes got out of the way of an attack ?
Kaido wasn't scared of it, so he was required to be told, will you accept that point?

He was told to dodge it because it was a dangerous attack, not because it would kill him in one shot.
There was a big charge up time to this attack, with a lot of time NOT ONLY TO ADVISE BUT TO REACT AND DODGE. There was no time to avoid getting red roc blitzed, which was actually Luffy's counterattack anyway.
Because the attack was strong, slow and easily dodgable?
Kaido didn't intentionally get schneidered (which interrupted him killing killer), this is attack speed downplay.
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
then you're just falling for fake hype, all this is just set up to be surprised when Kaido start surviving Zoro attacks , especially his old attacks
You're the one assuming that Big Mom was terrified for no reason. I'm assuming Big Mom was terrified because the attack will fuck up Kaido badly.

I like where I am currently.


Shi Shishi Sonson's likely the strongest Ittoryu attack tbh.
I agree.

I was powerscaling Zoro's current moves based on preskip moves.


Imagine Zoro seriously wounding Kaido if not even killing him, turning the blade black in the process (thus surpassing Oden) and after that remembering Mihawk and saying to himself "I'm catching up to you" or "soon I can face you".

:myman:

@ShishioIsBack @nik87 @HA001 @Sentinel @playa4321 @Finalbeta @Cinera
He needs to at least behead Kaido if he wants to be so arrogant.
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So he's still got low, mid, upper high tier, low, mid and upper top tier attacks stronger than this attack in your world?
Sounds like more zorotardy Luffy downplay.
You have no idea of Zoro's current moveset hierarchy, Zoro thought this attack was the best for the job, it relied on Enma's ability hence ittoryu and he was huffing afterwards. Would Zoro be dead after unleashing a top top tier attack ? (and take 2 chapters to charge it, and get easily dodged)
  • There's no reason to assume that the hierarchy of Zoro's current moveset has changed, especially not for pretimeskip techniques.
  • Hiryuu Kaen has always been an Ittoryu technique.
  • Zoro is simply progressively using stronger attacks.
    • He started off last chapter with Rengoku Oni Giri.
  • You are reading too much into huffs.
  • Your fanfiction about dodging and charging times is just fanfiction.
 

Sir Tuna Sandwich II

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
The scabbards have Oden's ryou.
Kaido sees Oden's shadow in Luffy.
Now we jave Enma possessing Oden's Soul/Haki/Presence or whatever.
All that's left now is for Zoro or Momonosuke to awaken Oden as a Stand just so he could kill Kaido with his hands.
The f*ck! Let the man rest in peace in his grave damnit.
Crydo actually fell in love with Oden after he saw Oden's big dick energy and this why he want to die, because his loved one is dead... poor fish Crydo...
 
why was he told to dodge it ?
why didnt meme tell him dodge anything else ?
why didnt she tell him dodge red roc when he let it hit him ?
why is this the first time in the series hes got out of the way of an attack ?
Because she sense something coming from Enma and Zoro ( don't why people try to separated them ) that could hurt him .
At least more than what other people doing but that seem because of Enma .
Cause it not like she could tell that her attack won't hurt luffy and the same goes for Kaido and bolo .
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Kaido wasn't scared of it, so he was required to be told, will you accept that point?

He was told to dodge it because it was a dangerous attack, not because it would kill him in one shot.
There was a big charge up time to this attack, with a lot of time NOT ONLY TO ADVISE BUT TO REACT AND DODGE. There was no time to avoid getting red roc blitzed, which was actually Luffy's counterattack anyway.
Because the attack was strong, slow and easily dodgable?
Kaido didn't intentionally get schneidered (which interrupted him killing killer), this is attack speed downplay.
KAIDO HAS NEVER DODGED AN ATTACK IN THE SERIES WTF ARE YOU ON ABOUT

that attack > any attack kaido has taken so far

lmfao why do you always lie ? stop being a sad shit
kaido let red roc hit him


he saw it coming so did big mom
she didnt tell him dodge it
 
You don't get to say this after all your trash talking of Zoro :whitepress:
Zorotards turning a dodged attack (with mobility asssit) followed by getting BTFOd by BM's lightning into the best feat of the fight soured the moment.
Anyone with rational thought who sees Luffy in one chapter set up 3 attacks from other SNs with his rifle, save Killer from being KILLED in a prone semi-unconcious state with schneider , tanking Boro breath and then clobbering Kaido in a double page spread, would say this is a LUFFY CHAPTER.

B-but Kaido hasn't dodged an attack before!
 
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