Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

Holy Shit

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I'm going to wait for hybrid form Kaido, because i don't see Old WB tanking a Thunder Bagua + Hybrid Form to the face.

Yeah... like I said. Kaido best defence, WB best offence. WB doesn't have to tank anything. Kaido is not going to land that.

Don't forget Hybrid Form = slower than base.

 

[enelminemreborn]

Nah he jas an agenda. The guy likes pretending like he doesnr have an agenda but he does

Its kind of funny when hes in streams with multiple people and people call him out on his agendas and he pretends like he doesnt know what they are talking about then everyone in the stream jusy agrees to ignore him and he just keeps quiet for a few minutes whole someone changes the topic... Hehehe, ive seen it happen like three times... Its so funny

virgo >garp

 

[nik87]

Sad if you're a Luffy fan like me but true nonetheless.
Zoro > Luffy
Oda showed it multiple times during the raid, no need to deny it anymore. There is no shame in admitting a mistake. I was wrong to think Luffy was stronger than Zoro, that is not the story Oda is writing.

There is nothing sad about it... Luffy and Zoro are on the same team, the unstoppable train that goes through Aqua Laguna!

 

[Paperchampion23]

mihawk wasn't akainu enemic in that moment so why he wound worry for him?

Not the point of my post. The point was that I was pointing out the irony of people calling Oda a "zoro wanker" which Zoro fans are loving right now, but you can apply that same logic to "Shanks wanker" because the things Shanks has done in this manga so far, far exceed anything Oda has shown with Mihawk.

Oda has clearly shown Shanks in a far more important and featworthy presence than Mihawk has ever truly gotten. Thsts a straight up fact because I can give you a clash with 2 Yonko and Akainu, threatening Blackbeard and ending a war on Shanks' side, while i can't remotely tell you anything note worthy for Mihawk other than his title and the 2 instances where he cut a ship (which Zoro can do easily) and a tidal wave (which Zoro has essentially shown to slice literal mountains so im not sure it's that impressive anymore).

Not shitting on Mihawk, but the clear portrayal for Shanks in this manga is much higher than Mihawk's, just as Zoro is getting over Sanji

 

[MarineHQ]

Killer made a clear and direct statement of who the WSP was. He did not use the word known or anything like that to raise doubts. As long as Mihawk is a pirate, he will be below KAIDO. "Our enemy is the strongest pirate in the world!" How do you respond to that?

And literally chapters later Zoro uses the "is said to be" again. So what does this mean?

Why can Oda confirm Kaido as the WSP, but goes on to re-use the vagueness when it comes to include everyone, not just pirates. Is there perhaps a non-pirate stronger than Kaido?

I'm not saying there is, but you gotta admit that Oda is making it far more difficult than it needs to be.

My rationalization is Whitebeard has greatest offence, and Kaido has greatest defence. So far it's worked out great.

If you think of Whitebeard in terms of destructive power, and Kaido as strongest in tanking ability, the problem is resolved.

Shouldn't BB be the new worlds strongest man then?

I don't know where Oda is going with this whole " people say Kaido is the strongest"

he didn't just mentioned it once and moved on, he keep repeating it like a broken record, it's like he want the reader to question the rumor instead of believing it, in that case what's even the point of this whole stupid rumor to begin with

again when it comes to power lvl it's not even worth discussing anything Oda says, it's all random and meaningless

The way i always saw it is that Kaido's WSC title directly refers to him being a Dragon which is commonly ( in mythology) accepted as the strongest being that ever existed. I'm pretty sure that it is in Chinese mythology which Kaido is based on.

 

[Lukegranders]

There is nothing sad about it... Luffy and Zoro are on the same team, the unstoppable train that goes through Aqua Laguna!

Are you guys actually saying zoro>luffy?

there’s no way y’all are serious

 

[sidestreetboy]

I don't know where Oda is going with this whole " people say Kaido is the strongest"

he didn't just mentioned it once and moved on, he keep repeating it like a broken record, it's like he want the reader to question the rumor instead of believing it, in that case what's even the point of this whole stupid rumor to begin with

again when it comes to power lvl it's not even worth discussing anything Oda says, it's all random and meaningless

When Zoro beheads Kaido, he will say
"You, the strongest? You were just a frog in the well"

 

[Excelsion]

Show me where WB damages Aokiji with his

pUre aS fUcK hAkI

Spoiler alert. You can't.

Whitebeard maybe had last ounces of Haki but you can't fucking consider this a threat to anyone above veterans.

If the fight didn't happen at Marineford the 3 Admirals would wipe the floor with the whole of the WB's alliance + WB and his crew.

 

[Patapujuro]

Luffy already got wrecked. Next probably Kidd, then Law, then Killer, that's it. Zoro won't lose. Oda will make sure of that.

Wow ! Have you stopped downplaying Zoro recently ? Does this mean that you finally saw the light ? The light coming from Zoro's Greatness ?

 

[sanjikun]

And literally chapters later Zoro uses the "is said to be" again. So what does this mean?

Why can Oda confirm Kaido as the WSP, but goes on to re-use the vagueness when it comes to include everyone, not just pirates. Is there perhaps a non-pirate stronger than Kaido?

- We can also say for sure that the " is s

Shouldn't BB be the new worlds strongest man then?

The way i always saw it is that Kaido's WSC title directly refers to him being a Dragon which is commonly ( in mythology) accepted as the strongest being that ever existed. I'm pretty sure that it is in Chinese mythology which Kaido is based on.

Yeah, BB will be the WSM soon. But remember, WB also had advanced Ryou and monstrous physical strength (stopped Moby Dick with 1 hand) It wasn't just Gura.

That's why I think BB will get Kaido's DF.

Gura Gura = Strongest Offence
Azure Dragon = Strongest Defence
Yami = renders DF/Hax ineffective

 

[Rekien]

Are you guys actually saying zoro>luffy?

there’s no way y’all are serious

Mostly Luffy fans in depression are saying that....If the raid will continue everyone can see Zoro will stall Kaido for Luffy to recover, maybe weakening him a a bit. This confirms Luffy will be rejoining the fight in 10 minutes to beat Kaido up again.

 

[nik87]

Are you guys actually saying zoro>luffy?

there’s no way y’all are serious

Oh, you realized it just now? Where have you been all these years?

 

[Master OF Haki]

which rules did Oda break exactly?

For me to explain it you I first need explain how to write a story, even though I can do that in a long thread but I don't think that this audience will appreciate my efforts. I also have no plans to educate people for free, if one day at least 5 people would have interest "how to write a story" then I would create a course on Patreon.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

- Kaido's Hybrid Form just shown in the shadow.

 

[WesMidnight]

Until this day you didnt realize that the tougher path doesnt mean being stronger than Mihawk?
And since Zoro's introduction, he was a character who protects Luffy.
Dont blame it on me just because you misunderstood what the story is saying.

Going back to Arlong park, Luffy said he isn't good at things, (including muh sword) but he is good at being strong. Reread ch 90.

One aspect of the pirate king is strength, you can have near equivalent strength to the PK but be lacking in allies, resources and ambition and so be a silver medalist like whitebeard, but strength is a big component also. Mihawk isn't even oldbeard tier let alone PK tier.

Just like Rayleigh protected Roger by fighting Rocks and WB for him... oh wait you are full of shit. Where was Zoro's protection against Lucci, Crocodile, Doflamingo? - Against the subordinates, Zoro's main role is to fight the strongest or second strongest subordinate of the enemy.

 

[Rekien]

For me to explain it you I first need explain how to write a story, even though I can do that in a long thread but I don't think that this audience will appreciate my efforts. I also have no plans to educate people for free, if one day at least 5 people would have interest "how to write a story" then I would create a course on Patreon.

If you hate the story soo much and think Oda is such a shitty writter....Why even waste your time in a forum of said series? Just admit you feel hurt by Oda showing that your headcannon was completely wrong about Zoro, take your L and enjoy the show.

 

[The Buddha]

As I thought, none was defeated by Big Mom's lightnings

and everything seems to indicate that Shanks will appear in wano to save Luffy's ass

 

[enelminemreborn]

zoro said he will never lose again

 

[Excelsion]

The underestimation of Shanks in thread... lol

Dude had Akainu shitting his pants when he arrived after blocking his attack. Not even Mihawk was ever gifted that presence. And its sad that when Oda highlights Zoro over Sanji (to which some call him a Zoro wanker, the mangaka...), people ignore the complete and irrefutable fact that Shanks has been portrayed way more imposing and important than Mihawk as ever gotten in this series.

But sure, someone will quote me and say "WSS" as a counter argument to his clear portrayal differences so whatever.

"Dude had Akainu shitting his pants" If you think that Akainu is afraid of Shanks you are very dead wrong. Sengoku was the Fleet Admiral, he follows his orders.

 

[Seraphoenix]

With Luffy out of G4 we will see a lot more of “Zoro saves Luffy” in the next few chapters.

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"Dude had Akainu shitting his pants" If you think that Akainu is afraid of Shanks you are very dead wrong. Sengoku was the Fleet Admiral, he follows his orders.

Akainu wasn’t man enough to step up to Shanks.