How will the Supernovas fare against Hybrid Kaido?


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Is this not automatic higher portrayal?

Like you are listing feats not portrayal. I mean Zoro has higher feats that Mihawk right? He actully does. But in the back our minds, we know Zoro is not stronger than Mihawk. We know this because of Portrayal. And the portrayal is that Zoro cant be stronher than Mihawk despite feats because that would mean Zoro is the strongest swordsman in the world already.

So same to Shanks. Shanks does have more feats than Mihawk but in the back of our minds we know Shanks isnt WSS because that in itself implies things the story cant allow. For example that means the narrator is lying when he calls Mihawk the WSS and it means Zoro will have to beat Shanks and thats even more impossible. See.

That title in itself carries way more implications for Portrayal than you realise. Zoro at the end of Wano will have clashed with Big mom, king and Fujitora in the story and yet his goal states Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. Thats VERY HIGH PORTRAYAL
No because its a fan assumption to sit here and assume Shanks did anything but compete for that title, all while assuming the WSS title has anything to do with Shanks as a whole, who's goals are entirely unknown

Nothing ever was insinuated who won their duals. Mihawk stopped fighting Shanks because he lost his arm, yet there is clear indication that Shanks was ready fight him anyway when they first met on GL

You guys like sitting here and using that as your only argument in this manga when the author has shown me time and time again that Shanks is a vastly more important character in presence and feats.


A big example is Shanks clashing with Whitebeard nonchalantly and insulting his crew. This was a monumental moment in the manga. Mihawk the next arc proceeds to ask how "far he is from that man", throws a slash at him, only to get it blocked by Joz. Not as impressive is it

Again, not saying Mihawk is "weaker" than Shanks, but the manga has NOT shown me a moment where the opposite is true.
 
No the Tuesday provider doesn’t like kidd or killer
I bet they are actually out for the chapter.

The spoilers seem to cover most of the important stuff

Notice how they mention Big mom and Zoro clashing but we dont get told the outcome. We just know Zoro survived to save Luffy. So the spoiler guys are onoy focusing on important stuff

Kid and killer either do nothing important for the rest of the chapter or they are just knocked out
 
I bet they are actually out for the chapter.

The spoilers seem to cover most of the important stuff

Notice how they mention Big mom and Zoro clashing but we dont get told the outcome. We just know Zoro survived to save Luffy. So the spoiler guys are onoy focusing on important stuff

Kid and killer either do nothing important for the rest of the chapter or they are just knocked out
no it’s the same thing that happened last week he just doesn’t like kidd or killer.

when you reread the spoilers it clearly is jumping around the chapter
 
Orochi lmao you taught Zoro was that weak?
Orochi being Zoro's main fight of the arc was never my argument. I said King would be. My argument at the time for Orochi was about having 8 Heads, with regen abilities, and having to decapitate all of them at the same time was the only way to kill him. If Zoro was meant to mimic Ryuma's feat of decapitating a Dragon, Zoro would one up it, and decapitate an 8 headed Dragon. Alas, Orochi is no longer with us, so that idea went out the window.
 

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This isn't a prediction, it's just a crazy way things could play out that I would love.

So currently:
  • Kaido has entered Hybrid form
  • Luffy is dead weight for 10 minutes
  • Zoro is seemingly still warming up in Santoryu

I'm a believer that Luffy and Zoro deal 90% of the damage vs Kaido. I don't expect the other SN to defeat Mama though, so I'm not sure what happens to her.

Here's what I would love to happen:
  • Hybrid Kaido styles on the Supernova and knocks most of them down within a few minutes
  • Zoro rises up from the rubble. He asks Luffy how many more minutes until he can fight again.
    • Luffy replies with "X minutes" (X >= 5)
    • Zoro acknowledges Luffy's response and says he'll face Kaido.
  • Zoro unleashes Asura
  • Kaido is excited and wants to fight Zoro. He requests that Mama not intervene
  • We get an epic duel where Zoro manages to hold his own against Kaido.
  • Kaido acknowledges Zoro as a "monster samurai" of the likes of Oden and expresses hope that he might be the one to kill him.
  • Bonus
    • As things are getting difficult for Zoro, Luffy joins the fray.
    • We get epic fight choreography of Boundman/G5(???) Luffy and Asura Zoro styling on Hybrid Kaido
 
I bet they are actually out for the chapter.

The spoilers seem to cover most of the important stuff

Notice how they mention Big mom and Zoro clashing but we dont get told the outcome. We just know Zoro survived to save Luffy. So the spoiler guys are onoy focusing on important stuff

Kid and killer either do nothing important for the rest of the chapter or they are just knocked out
He's a Zoro fanboy , thats all there's to it
 
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This isn't a prediction, it's just a crazy way things could play out that I would love.

So currently:
  • Kaido has entered Hybrid form
  • Luffy is dead weight for 10 minutes
  • Zoro is seemingly still warming up in Santoryu

I'm a believer that Luffy and Zoro deal 90% of the damage vs Kaido. I don't expect the other SN to defeat Mama though, so I'm not sure what happens to her.

Here's what I would love to happen:
  • Hybrid Kaido styles on the Supernova and knocks most of them down within a few minutes
  • Zoro rises up from the rubble. He asks Luffy how many more minutes until he can fight again.
    • Luffy replies with "X minutes" (X >= 5)
    • Zoro acknowledges Luffy's response and says he'll face Kaido.
  • Zoro unleashes Asura
  • Kaido is excited and wants to fight Zoro. He requests that Mama not intervene
  • We get an epic duel where Zoro manages to hold his own against Kaido.
  • Kaido acknowledges Zoro as a "monster samurai" of the likes of Oden and expresses hope that he might be the one to kill him.
  • Bonus
    • As things are getting difficult for Zoro, Luffy joins the fray.
    • We get epic fight choreography of Boundman/G5(???) Luffy and Asura Zoro styling on Hybrid Kaido
God damn, you just made me :steef:
 
Orochi being Zoro's main fight of the arc was never my argument. I said King would be. My argument at the time for Orochi was about having 8 Heads, with regen abilities, and having to decapitate all of them at the same time was the only way to kill him. If Zoro was meant to mimic Ryuma's feat of decapitating a Dragon, Zoro would one up it, and decapitate an 8 headed Dragon. Alas, Orochi is no longer with us, so that idea went out the window.
You taught Zoro was King level and wouldn't fight Kaido after. You taught Zoro was that weak. 😆 i believe Orochi is being revive though. So what you think about is happening? Is Luffy landing the last blow
 
This isn't a prediction, it's just a crazy way things could play out that I would love.

So currently:
  • Kaido has entered Hybrid form
  • Luffy is dead weight for 10 minutes
  • Zoro is seemingly still warming up in Santoryu

I'm a believer that Luffy and Zoro deal 90% of the damage vs Kaido. I don't expect the other SN to defeat Mama though, so I'm not sure what happens to her.

Here's what I would love to happen:
  • Hybrid Kaido styles on the Supernova and knocks most of them down within a few minutes
  • Zoro rises up from the rubble. He asks Luffy how many more minutes until he can fight again.
    • Luffy replies with "X minutes" (X >= 5)
    • Zoro acknowledges Luffy's response and says he'll face Kaido.
  • Zoro unleashes Asura
  • Kaido is excited and wants to fight Zoro. He requests that Mama not intervene
  • We get an epic duel where Zoro manages to hold his own against Kaido.
  • Kaido acknowledges Zoro as a "monster samurai" of the likes of Oden and expresses hope that he might be the one to kill him.
  • Bonus
    • As things are getting difficult for Zoro, Luffy joins the fray.
    • We get epic fight choreography of Boundman/G5(???) Luffy and Asura Zoro styling on Hybrid Kaido
Oda waste all that panel time on Kidd and Law to be a hype tool ?

there's no way Kidd is not doing significant damage and even comparable to Luffy and Zoro in this fight

if Oda didn't waste much time on SNs throughout the arc maybe there's a chance, but Oda still determined to give them panel time, so there's no option where they get fodderized
 
I'm still convinced that the relation that was created between Linlin and Tama during the former's amnesia will have its importance later. Especially now that the people who may reveal her who Mother Carmel truly was are here.

Maybe if Big Mom goes through another mental shock due to her having gotten the big reveal, if that happens of course, she'll somehow remember Tama as the last genuine friend she had and than that alongside Tama being harmed will causes her to snap out of her mental state with her having reverted back to her original personnality again.

Of course this isn't a scenario that I would really enjoy but given all the unresolved issues and details that were given in Big Mom's flashback and backstory, the fact that the alliance will need for Kaido and Big Mom to turn on each other to win the final battle for Wano, the fact that BM was given a relation with Tama during her amnesia and the fact that nothing really points out to Linlin's story ending in Wano this is a scenario that could happen if all of these details and plot points come together.
 
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