Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[WesMidnight]

Zoro has mainly been impressive in terms of attack power here. When it comes to speed, reflexes and the likes, Luffy's been the one at the top. Those attributes combined with how devastating his attacks have been, makes him the most impressive overall to me.

Sure Hiryu Kaen received quite a lot of hype regarding its potential damage. Problem is that Zoro failed to land it. Its probably additional pressure since Kaido has to be warry of it but unless it lands, its not getting them any closer to winning the fight. Compare that to Luffy who has been able to straight up blitz past Kaido's wind blade to land a clean punch and tank through Boro Breath to immediately retaliate with an attack that legitimately put Kaido down for an entire sequence.

Onigiri landed while he attacked together with Killer (and didn't do much of anything anyway) , Tatsumaki was on a Kaido that was targeting Luffy and didn't seem nearly as effective as Kong Gatling....

Zoro extremists can't even accept that a near max effort attack that drained all of Luffy's haki is on another level than any of the other SNs attacks so far.

 

[Hedfi]

Why does cp0 don't try capturing Nico Robin?
For them she should be the root of the very evilness in the world and is the greatest Danger to the World Government.

I think they'll wait for the right moment at the end of the battle to come and sweep in everyone in their custody including Robin.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Enma was crafted especially for Oden ?

I didn't remember that

I just check it and no Enma was not crafted for Oden. The renown swordsmith Shimotsuki Kazaburo made it and only after some time Oden picked it up because nobody else managed to tamed it.

Enma was made for Kozuki Heir which happened to be Oden so yes the sword was crafted specifically for Oden.

 

[Buusatan94]

I still don't get the point of BM fusing with Prometheus, all it does is set her hair on fire. Prometheus and Napolean is much better

And I am looking forward Napoleon and Zeus' combination.

 

[Bogard]

Somehow it's unrealistic for Zoro to make a black blade in one battle just because Oden wasn't able to do it for years.

I said Ryuma, learn to read

> Ryuma only did it through his history of battle

 

[enelminemreborn]

How am I making shit up. Every chapter Oden's sword is getting all the hype. The sword must be doing something if everyone is talking about it and not Zoro.

it was always a hype sword the sword that injured kaido so it must be a fuckin good sword that was said even before oden was introduced so does that mean that oden got carried enma you see how retarded that sound its good fucking weapon the number one quality of a swords mans is a sword a good one too its has been like that there was no mention of odens haki being in the sword but his presence not the fucking haki kaido saw that it was obviously enma that hurt him and made the conclusion thats its oden sword the one that injured him

 

[Jackteo]

Cant wait

I wasn't serious
I have to come up with something interesting in 12 hours now

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

You could even argue luffy knew it wouldn’t damage him, so he wasn’t dodging to disrespect kaido. So Zoro ruined luffys momentum with his selfishness. Should respect his Captain even mord.

what?
luffy was happy to see him there......

 

[Buusatan94]

Hope to see Queen and especially King in real action soon.

 

[ErionRoronoa]

"So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here. "
Great work for clarifying to the retarded people in this thread who thought it was Oden's haki or power.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

What if Who's who is really a cp0 member?

There are some beast pirates having the same Tattoo as Who's who playing music for Cp0 and Cp0 has no worry talking about how they will let Pirates kill each other near them,isn't it suspicious?

Who's who may really be Jinbei's end of arc opponent if he does belong to the World Government.

Now I'm going to make a wild claim,is Who's who possibly Greenbull?

if he was jimbei would be fish meat

 

[vikas]

As for the Oden's Haki, Kaido saying Odens Haki does not exactly mean he has the same Haki, but more the same level of haki, as Zoro is starting to adapt to the sword that only Oden was able to wield.

Good I did not want any oden haki still living in sword BS.

 

[Patapujuro]

Was Oden not its weilder ? I wouldn't be suprised if it still has Oden's saved data still within for Zoro to take advantage of.

And now you're saying that Enma is like a video game console ? A Nintendo Switch type sword ? Really ??

 

[Aknolagon]

You're so right man. How could prime WB or Big Mom know adv. Haki? Surely Oden too didn't have adv. Haki because of course the gut left Wano for some time. He never had the chance to learn adv. Haki that's why Kaido never seen him use it when they fought. That's so logical, I wish I could I had your insight man. Kaido must have been a neet for over 20 years, I understand now. Eventhough he lived in Wano the guy never left his room to roam Wano of course the poor bastard wouldn't know that Wano people know something as amazing as adv. Haki. Surely no one else knows this magical way of using Haki. I feel so sorry for the Admirals and the rest of the marines for not knowing adv. Haki. They must be so weak not like the amazing Wano people who know adv. Haki.

I'm so emotional now man. The wano people are so amazing

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Surely she can.

you shouldn't say that to me, but to Oda. I never said the others don't know adv.coa. You said admirals or whatever don't know about adv.coa. But going by the story that's true at least they never hurt him badly, no ? Kaido got captured 48 times and defeated 7 times but still only one wound is visible and it's Oden's scars. 48 times he was on navy's/yonkou control and in his intro, Oda said no weapon hurt him ... So yes no one used adv.coa on Kaido but it doesn't mean they don't know about adv.coa but only kaido doesn't know about "ryou" or the form/identity of the haki Zoro used, for him it's just like Oden's haki.

 

[Hiragaro]

Santoryu Zoro is a solid low top tier.

Headcanon

 

[Zolo]

Final match ups

sanji vs queen
King vs marco
Luffy vs kaido
Zoro vs beetle gifter

 

[zzShinichi]

Yoou know what, this look out/dodge is the exact reason to wait for the official translation, or else no one would care about the official after reading the fan scans 50 times.
It also buys us some time while waiting for the next chapter
So yeah keep arguing guys

 

[WesMidnight]

"So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here. "
Great work for clarifying to the retarded people in this thread who thought it was Oden's haki or power.

Why doesn't he call it Shanks' Ryuo then? Lol I suppose Oden only had level 2 barrier ryuo wheras shanks has level 3 like Luffy/Rayleigh.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Translators want to make it seem as if Kaido is saying Zoro is using the same haki as Oden lol

Oden's haki is in enma

Why would Kaido mention enma if it was just Zoro using same level of haki as Oden?

kaido didn't say " he is using the same haki as Oden" like he did with Retainers
"That form/indentity of haki...
Ah it worked...I see... that's Oden's sword"

He wanted to make sure...he felt Oden's presence last chapter. This chapter he made sure if it is indeed Oden's haki/presence

Kaido knows about Ryuo, he wouldn't be saying "that form /identity of haki" if Zoro was using his own ryuo like Oden
He has already seen.

I guess retainers also have Oden's level of haki huh lol

BM notes Enma being abnormal, kaido feels Oden's presence and made sure if it is indeed Oden's haki/presence.
Some Translators opinion " kaido is saying Zoro is using same level of haki as Oden"

 

[Pantheos]

Just a question from me @Pantheos, from a Zoro fan perspective do you also see the consistent toxicity when dehyping Zoro ?

Sure there are times we Zoro fans can be toxic but truly there is more hate on the character pretty much on everything he does, which causes fans of his to then in turn rub it in users faces, when he does something good.

Sure i see that also. When Zoro gets something negative somewhere, the same people come up and spread toxicity from the other side and i am tired of that too. Honestly, i get headache thinking about the next weeks when (just in my opinion) zoro will fall against Kaido (which wouldnt be something to blame anyway, cause he is doing impressive right now!), the trolling against the zoro fandom comes up again.

But this is a circle. Zoro gets hype, zoro fandom gets toxic AF, Zoro gets dehyped, zoro haters get toxic AF. The main situation right now is just, the zoro fandom in our forum is way bigger then real haters (and i mean trolling haters, not people who just arent big zoro fans), thats why the toxicity right now is, in my opinion, even bigger. Just look at the numbers on strange zoro thread the last days. Also i lost counting how much insults and provocations me alone deleted here and i am absolutely not the most active moditing person in this thread.

So yes, i absolutely see the other side being toxic AF too when the parallel situation occurs, and i am tired of that too. But one toxicity doesnt make the other one better or more acceptable.


Edit: Also, in my opinion, overhyping will always lead into a massive backslash. So claiming now for example Zoro would Mid Diff Kaido right now (someone claimed it the last days), will automaticaly lead into a massive backslash when it gets debunked.