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I remember once arguing with someone about this... he was saying "we just want Wano, end WCI already" and I was telling him that "Oda should give Curlyhat team a proper 1 vs 1 match in WCI before leaving where they all go all out"
And he was saying "No, they can fight in Wano" and I specifically stated that "Wano will have SO MANY CHARACTERS, that if Oda will focus on each and everyone of them to highlight it, the arc will fall because it will be everywhere and unentertaining that way"
I told him that if Oda did delay their proper matches, ONE OF TWO THINGS will happen eventually:
1- Either Oda will end up focusing ONLY on Supernova ALONE... and rest of Strawhats will be overshadowed, which will end in HUUUUGE fanbase rioting that Wano ended disappointing cause SHs didn't shine well
2- Or Oda will end up focusing more on SHs crew all of them (which is what's happening) and basically ignoring all other allies and not make them shine as much as strawhats (literally, what's happening now, where SHs are facing Yonkos, Calamities, Tobi Roppo) while allies like 9 Red Scabbards, Oda overshadowed and Supernova are not getting their proper screentime... cause Oda cannot show each and everyone fighting with 1-2 chapters in that match...
And the second choice is actually what's happening and it's the SAFEST BET for Oda... because who is rioting regarding Scabbards or Superova getting outshined by SHs crew are ONLY the online community... while the casual fans (which are the MAJORITY of fans) for the series, who just watch the show and get on with their lives, the ones who actually give the highest of sales.... they literally complained about Reverie arc because they missed the strawhats... while online community were having orgasms during that arc... so Oda basically ignored the online community and favored the casual fans who give him the most props, and ended making Wano highligting MORE STRAWHATSs... instead of Scabbards or Supernova whom the community deemed as the MAIN FORCE for the war... while Marco literally stated the opposite to Robin/Zoro/Brook saying that the SHs are the main forces for this war.. making it similar to Enies Lobby arc
Anyway.... Oda ignoring the curlyhat crew in WCI and not giving them fights like Dressrosa group (resulted in bad payoff for them) while Zoro's group from Dressrosa have been absent through all of WCI... and fans missed them... this resulted in majority of fans wanting and itching for ALL SH CREW to be main focus
And he was saying "No, they can fight in Wano" and I specifically stated that "Wano will have SO MANY CHARACTERS, that if Oda will focus on each and everyone of them to highlight it, the arc will fall because it will be everywhere and unentertaining that way"
I told him that if Oda did delay their proper matches, ONE OF TWO THINGS will happen eventually:
1- Either Oda will end up focusing ONLY on Supernova ALONE... and rest of Strawhats will be overshadowed, which will end in HUUUUGE fanbase rioting that Wano ended disappointing cause SHs didn't shine well
2- Or Oda will end up focusing more on SHs crew all of them (which is what's happening) and basically ignoring all other allies and not make them shine as much as strawhats (literally, what's happening now, where SHs are facing Yonkos, Calamities, Tobi Roppo) while allies like 9 Red Scabbards, Oda overshadowed and Supernova are not getting their proper screentime... cause Oda cannot show each and everyone fighting with 1-2 chapters in that match...
And the second choice is actually what's happening and it's the SAFEST BET for Oda... because who is rioting regarding Scabbards or Superova getting outshined by SHs crew are ONLY the online community... while the casual fans (which are the MAJORITY of fans) for the series, who just watch the show and get on with their lives, the ones who actually give the highest of sales.... they literally complained about Reverie arc because they missed the strawhats... while online community were having orgasms during that arc... so Oda basically ignored the online community and favored the casual fans who give him the most props, and ended making Wano highligting MORE STRAWHATSs... instead of Scabbards or Supernova whom the community deemed as the MAIN FORCE for the war... while Marco literally stated the opposite to Robin/Zoro/Brook saying that the SHs are the main forces for this war.. making it similar to Enies Lobby arc
Anyway.... Oda ignoring the curlyhat crew in WCI and not giving them fights like Dressrosa group (resulted in bad payoff for them) while Zoro's group from Dressrosa have been absent through all of WCI... and fans missed them... this resulted in majority of fans wanting and itching for ALL SH CREW to be main focus
I don't disagree with this but its also never been stated Shanks actually lost to Mihawk, only that Mihawk pities Shanks after he lost his arm and refuses to fight him.
Their duels actually never claimed a clear victor lol. I think there's a big difference between 2 rivals dueling and the both stop dueling due to one losing their arm.
Their duels actually never claimed a clear victor lol. I think there's a big difference between 2 rivals dueling and the both stop dueling due to one losing their arm.
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What can Kizaru do? he can only come alone. Fujitora can take the marines with him just like Kaido does right now. but i really doubt that he can fly for long distances as well. Remember he was not flying while he was going back with Doffy. or it might take a toll on his Stamina to fly long distances.
Your funeral man. This is a series were the author rarely, if ever, kills the main villains. At worst, he offscreens them (monet/vergo). At most, he's only effectively killed Ace and Whitebeard onscreen still.
And before you try to flip this back on me as if my whole world would crumble if it happens, I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than set myself up for some pretty insane expectations and be disappointed.
And before you try to flip this back on me as if my whole world would crumble if it happens, I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than set myself up for some pretty insane expectations and be disappointed.
While it was never stated that Shanks lost to Mihawk, Mihawk also was never stated to have lost to Shanks.... and considering that... and also counting the fact that Mihawk was already a renowned swordsman during the Roger era (which was the time Shanks was a mere apprentice.... Mihawk simply has the SENIORITY over Shanks.... Meaning, Mihawk was famous BEFORE Shanks... and thus, during their duels, Shanks was gaining his infamy through battling Mihawk, and since he never beat Mihawk, Mihawk retains the title of worlds strongest....
This is for example like having a boxing champion or UFC champion, and he was battling against a rising star who became the number 1 contender for the title match... the match ENDS in a draw.... EVEN in points, it was a draw.... what is the decision?
The champion retains the title of being the champion with the belt... and thus, he is STILL SUPREME cause no one has beaten him yet...
This is how I view the Mihawk/Shanks situation
and yeah, the idea of people twisting swordsmanship and separating it from Haki is dumb as fuck... cause first thing Mihawk was teaching Zoro as a swordsman is to master haki LMAO....
This whole ENMA shit which made TWO YONKO shit their pants is fucking haki shit for Zoro's road to face Mihawk
This is for example like having a boxing champion or UFC champion, and he was battling against a rising star who became the number 1 contender for the title match... the match ENDS in a draw.... EVEN in points, it was a draw.... what is the decision?
The champion retains the title of being the champion with the belt... and thus, he is STILL SUPREME cause no one has beaten him yet...
This is how I view the Mihawk/Shanks situation
and yeah, the idea of people twisting swordsmanship and separating it from Haki is dumb as fuck... cause first thing Mihawk was teaching Zoro as a swordsman is to master haki LMAO....
This whole ENMA shit which made TWO YONKO shit their pants is fucking haki shit for Zoro's road to face Mihawk
Its crazy how you guys entirely misinterpret my intentions about Zoro. I DON'T WANT ZORO TO BE OVERSHADOWED. Period. That's the entire point.
This entire page should scare you lmao:
Apparently I'm on a "dumb" train but Kaido kills Zoro probably has to be the dumbest train this forum has conjured up.
Edit: Mods stop editing my comments that I can't change.
This entire page should scare you lmao:
Apparently I'm on a "dumb" train but Kaido kills Zoro probably has to be the dumbest train this forum has conjured up.
Edit: Mods stop editing my comments that I can't change.
I'm shitting my pants.
Zoro killing Kaido with the final blow. I don't care what Luffy does.
Oars first of all was pseudo luffy. which gave him luffy's reflexes... lets not forget thay he was open to all sorts of combination attacks that zoro, sanji, frankly landed on Oars because he couldn't do anything about them .. the one and only thing oars dodged was zoro's linear Phoenix pound canon and that was by inches away aimed at his face which he dodges with ease by moving like kaido .. ... the crux of my statement is based on logic that is supported by the canon manga. that the bigger or taller your body is ( more surface area of the body ) the more the chances of you getting caught off guard are and the harder it is for u ti evade those attacks like law's gamma knife .. Plus one could argue that this logic is well demonstrated more with kaido... where he has been caught off guard various times and evaded only one attack that was aimed at his head than the body itself.. kaido in his DF form is waay taller than this...hence it was easy for zoro to slice kaido off guard with his tatsumaki.. and ket not forget the barrage of punches that form luffy that kaido could have avoided... but he couldn't in his DF form...
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You are right. I actually get that and you make it pretty clear that this may be what is going on. I guess the point I'm trying to make is this:
I entirely believe that Shanks and Mihawk are Luffy and Zoro's final fights. Emotionally, thematically, to me this is what makes sense.
With that being said, and with the ambiguity of how their matches seem to end, I would expect Luffy and Zoro to be pretty equal by the end. Thats fundamentally all I'm saying. When you look at a matchup with Blackbeard, he already has someone like Shiryu in his crew, which sort of suggests the idea that maybe Blackbeard isn't the last fight.
Because Shanks and Mihawk really only have associations with each other, I expect Mihawk to probably ally with Shanks in the coming final arcs. After all, he's going to be involved and he probably needs to be on some form of war front right? I would expect it to be with Shanks.
This of course, is if you are one of the people that believes Shanks isn't exactly who we think he is.
I entirely believe that Shanks and Mihawk are Luffy and Zoro's final fights. Emotionally, thematically, to me this is what makes sense.
With that being said, and with the ambiguity of how their matches seem to end, I would expect Luffy and Zoro to be pretty equal by the end. Thats fundamentally all I'm saying. When you look at a matchup with Blackbeard, he already has someone like Shiryu in his crew, which sort of suggests the idea that maybe Blackbeard isn't the last fight.
Because Shanks and Mihawk really only have associations with each other, I expect Mihawk to probably ally with Shanks in the coming final arcs. After all, he's going to be involved and he probably needs to be on some form of war front right? I would expect it to be with Shanks.
This of course, is if you are one of the people that believes Shanks isn't exactly who we think he is.
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