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KAIDO D. STRONGER

They were unable to kill him :josad:
"This man challenged the navy alone." 795.:hohoho::hohoho:
After measuring all the strength of the navy, he deduced (currently), that he is the strongest in the world, and speaks this openly in the LARINES 'face.:jordanmf:It is very good that KAIDO has been captured and challenged the SOLO navy, that his statement becomes more and more true.
 
Damn, Chopper casually did more damage to Queen in one strike than Big Mom did in two enraged attacks
:gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Also, confirmation that the World Government didn’t want to execute Kaido, they just wanted to experiment on him, which they did with 0 issues
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:

Yonko fandom took more Ls this chapter than they have ever taken before from one chapter, but you guys should be used to Ls by now

@KAIDO D. STRONGER @Seraphoenix @Tejas @Erkan12 @Red Admiral @Hanzo hattori @Irregular
They can't execute Kaido because their AP is less than King.
 
It could be Oden, i am not saying ut couldn't. I am saying Wano is trash if it is in my opinion. Arc is nonesense
The problem is.... Oda with this chapter made it in a way that ANY CHOICE other than Oden is EVEN worse.... here is why:

1- Devon: She doesn't know Oden, or Scabbard to tend to their wounds, heal them, THEN create oden image

2- Kanjuro: Why would he heal the scabbards if he just wanted to deceive them? why tend to their wounds? him or orochi coming back would only serve to increase their misery and not help scabbards...

3- Onimaru/Gyokimaru: First, it was not confirmed if he can immitate any look/person... otherwise, he probably would have taken Kawamatsu's look when he was pretending to be him.... Secondly, we see a shadow of either "Toki or Hiyori", a shadow of woman two chapters ago... meaning this person tended to the wounds, and this Oden (fake or real) is associated with the female in shadow... We have seen Hiyori and Onimaru before and they do not have interaction or know each other... they have no connection.... plus why would they troll the scabbards that oden is alive? they supposed to be good to scabbards, and not troll them

4- Lastly, Toki's fruit cannot go back into the past, based on what she said.... So, IFFF Toki sent Oden "before his time of execution" and then came back to be executed, it will be conflicted, because Oden once he is sent to future, he cannot go back to the past once again to die, as the fruit does not work that way... it's ONLY ONE WAY... into future, no going into past...

Which basically only leaves a simple explaination, as much as trash as you would think, it would not create conflicts in the story or plotholes... which is simply Oden survived the execution, the WHOLE THING.... and then leaped into the future along with Toki... and the person in shadow is Toki, and this is real Oden....

Again, this may sound trash to you all, BUT Oda with this chapter put it in a way that ANYTHING beside that explaination will be simply a "plothole" rather than simple trash writing of surviving
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
The problem is.... Oda with this chapter made it in a way that ANY CHOICE other than Oden is EVEN worse.... here is why:

1- Devon: She doesn't know Oden, or Scabbard to tend to their wounds, heal them, THEN create oden image

2- Kanjuro: Why would he heal the scabbards if he just wanted to deceive them? why tend to their wounds? him or orochi coming back would only serve to increase their misery and not help scabbards...

3- Onimaru/Gyokimaru: First, it was not confirmed if he can immitate any look/person... otherwise, he probably would have taken Kawamatsu's look when he was pretending to be him.... Secondly, we see a shadow of either "Toki or Hiyori", a shadow of woman two chapters ago... meaning this person tended to the wounds, and this Oden (fake or real) is associated with the female in shadow... We have seen Hiyori and Onimaru before and they do not have interaction or know each other... they have no connection....

4- Lastly, Toki's fruit cannot go back into the past, based on what she said.... So, IFFF Toki sent Oden "before his time of execution" and then came back to be executed, it will be conflicted, because Oden once he is sent to future, he cannot go back to the past once again to die, as the fruit does not work that way... it's ONLY ONE WAY... into future, no going into past...

Which basically only leaves a simple explaination, as much as trash as you would think, it would not create conflicts in the story or plotholes... which is simply Oden survived the execution, the WHOLE THING.... and then leaped into the future along with Toki... and the person in shadow is Toki, and this is real Oden....

Again, this may sound trash to you all, BUT Oda with this chapter put it in a way that ANYTHING beside that explaination will be simply a "plothole" rather than simple trash writing of surviving
your reasons against onimaru are flimsy and can easily be explained
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
onimaru transforming into oden can easily be explained that he can transform into people
kawamatsu put a disguise on when he was with onimaru stealing weapons theres no reason for him to use kawamatsu when he was gyukimaru
hiyori knows from kawa that onimaru is on their side and all it needs is to show a conversation in ringo between the two planning to come to onigashima (like tama and speed)
 
Again: You're reading OP.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the funny ride.

Just do not use your brain too much or think about all the PIS moments and plot conveniences.

OP has never been a manga that thrived on great (or even good) writing in those areas.
Lmao exactly. Why are people having so much of a meltdown lol. Just turn off your brain when watching OP. As long as Sanji looks good....Oda could make Chopper defeat Akainu for all I care.
 
onimaru transforming into oden can easily be explained that he can transform into people
kawamatsu put a disguise on when he was with onimaru stealing weapons theres no reason for him to use kawamatsu when he was gyukimaru
hiyori knows from kawa that onimaru is on their side and all it needs is to show a conversation in ringo between the two planning to come to onigashima (like tama and speed)
alright, but for that to happen.... First:
1- Hiyori should change her mind first (cause she stated she will not see the rest to not hold them back from war, as she told Kawamatsu and Zoro that if they see her, their morale for battle may drop and distract them....

2- After changing her mind because on a whim, she also by miraculous way, interacts with Onimaru once again.

3- She sees his ability to transform into any people, where he suddenly on a whim wanted to copy other people too

4- Then, also go on a ship into Onigashima (ALL BEFORE Onigashima is lifted into sky by Kaido)....

Lastly, you have yet to explain why would they troll the fuck out of scabbards.... they see Oden... get so happy, only to then say "joking" I was just trying to boost your morale.... that's some sick shit to do for your ally...

I mean, it's possible, not going to say it's Not... but for me at least, it's the least likely scenario compared to simply Oden surviving and Toki sending him to future
 
Lastly, Toki's fruit cannot go back into the past, based on what she said.... So, IFFF Toki sent Oden "before his time of execution" and then came back to be executed, it will be conflicted, because Oden once he is sent to future, he cannot go back to the past once again to die, as the fruit does not work that way... it's ONLY ONE WAY... into future, no going into past
That's what we know till now. You're saying this like Oda can't break some rules, lol. He even said that no one eat 2 devil fruits, BB did. All he has to say is 'Awakening' or something and BOOM, she can travel to the past.
 
That's what we know till now. You're saying this like Oda can't break some rules, lol. He even said that no one eat 2 devil fruits, BB did. All he has to say is 'Awakening' or something and BOOM, she can travel to the past.
True... he does break rules, maybe even will just say "well, Toki lied" LOL so that no scabbard tries to take advantage of changing past for future events... or ask her about changing past
 
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