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Cinera

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but perhaps Chopper can take on some Numbers (hopefully Usopp will step us as well).
Stop this:

There is not a single indication in the manga that the Numbers are Chopper's opponent. Nothing — and I mean nothing — that is actually happening in the manga suggests that the Numbers are Chopper's opponent.

By all indications, Chopper's arc opponent is simply Queen:
Let's leave aside powerscaling for a moment and talk about the narrative.

A confrontation between Chopper and Queen has been built up for quite a while:
  • In Udon Chopper neutralised Queen's Mummification virus and helped Luffy win over the Udon prisoners
  • On the Live Floor, Zoro retrieved the antidote to Chopper and trusted him to handle the situation there
    • This includes the confrontation with Queen.
    • The Vice-Captain of the Strawhats trusted in Chopper to prevail
  • After Chopper received the antidote from Zoro, Queen tried to kill Chopper but was thwarted by Zoro
  • Chopper then proceeds to neutralise Queen's Magnum Opus (the Ice Oni virus)
  • Chopper wins over Queen's subordinates
  • Chopper then proceeds to bitchslap Queen

Whether Chopper defeats Queen or not, Queen is Chopper's main opponent in this arc. Their conflict may be resolved without any combat — Chopper triumphs with his medicine besting Queen's plague — but Queen has already tried to kill Chopper (and Chopper did bitchslap Queen), so I doubt this. Perhaps Chopper receives assistance to subdue Queen (Queen also has quite the formidable grudge against X-Drake), but the idea that Oda will jettison all the buildup for a confrontation between Chopper and Queen, so Chopper can then fuck off to fight Perospero or a Number is the height of delusion. It has no basis in the actual narrative present in the manga and is merely a contortion to satisfy some headcanon powerscaling.


Chapter 1007 was named "Tanuki san". It was Chopper's eponymous chapter. All the other Strawhat chapters have begun their final confrontation against their arc opponent:
  • 1000: the beginning of Luffy's confrontation with Kaido
    • Luffy smacks Kaido down with a Red Roc
  • 1005: the beginning of Robin's confrontation with Black Maria
    • Robin bitchslaps Black Maria
  • 1007: the beginning of Chopper's confrontation with Queen
    • Chopper bitchslaps Queen
The claim that the confrontation highlighted and focused on in Chopper's dedicated chapter is all a ruse seems outlandish. All the other examples of Strawhat eponymous chapters we've seen have been pretty consistent in the pattern they follow. The Strawhat began their final confrontation with the arc antagonist and landed a solid hit on them.

This pattern is likely to be discarded in the future (some of the Strawhats already seem to have begun their final confrontations with their arc opponents), but it would still be pretty surprising if the confrontation highlighted in an eponymous chapter wasn't against the main opponent for the Strawhat in focus. If Oda did not intend for Chopper to be Queen's main opponent, I just can't imagine that he would have maid the highlight of Chopper's chapter Chopper bitchslapping Queen. From a narrative standpoint, it's absurd.

Queen has been set up as an opponent for Chopper (and/or Drake) much more than he has been set up as an opponent for Sanji. Hell, Zoro and Queen have a bigger grudge in the manga than Sanji and Queen do. To ignore what is actually happening in the narrative to force a traditional matchup seems incredibly foolish to me. According to traditional matchups, Zoro wouldn't be fighting Kaido, so they have a pretty poor track record.

I have very little regard for powerscaling arguments to determine a character's matchup. If you claim that Queen is not Chopper's arc opponent, then present an argument from the narrative. If all you have is headcanon powerscaling ("but Chopper is too weak, he can't fight a Yonkou Commander"), then you have no credible argument.

Until further notice, Queen is Chopper's arc opponent.


@PeperLevi, @Paperchampion23.
Everything I said in the above post is still true.
 
omg do you even read the manga? Kidd literally said ''thanks for blocking it'' to zoro mate,pay attention mister spee D. Reader.
And sanji was going to the rooftop to fight kaido but he couldn't arrive there because oda didn't want to put him on the same level as the top 2 strongest in the crew.
I know, Kidd thanked him surprisingly, as i said, it's clear that anyone who tried to hold that attack would just get completely wrecked, Zoro was the guy who choosed to sacrifice himself for the others and he accomplished that.

Sanji didn't wanted to go to the rooftop, he is willing to protect Kinemon (the Scabbards in general) and especially Momonosuke, he helped Luffy to reach the rooftop to not "waste" his strength until the main fight. Since there is no more rooftop, we can't tell what is going to happen
 

Peroroncino

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I know, Kidd thanked him surprisingly, as i said, it's clear that anyone who tried to hold that attack would just get completely wrecked, Zoro was the guy who choosed to sacrifice himself for the others and he accomplished that.

Sanji didn't wanted to go to the rooftop, he is willing to protect Kinemon (the Scabbards in general) and especially Momonosuke, he helped Luffy to reach the rooftop to not "waste" his strength until the main fight. Since there is no more rooftop, we can't tell what is going to happen
He clearly wanted to go to the rooftop considering that he even argued with jinbei that he was the one who was going to escort luffy there.
And yes kidd thanked him for blocking it, he said ''thanks for BLOCKING IT'' so don't try to downplay now and say zoro didn't block it
 
I know, Kidd thanked him surprisingly, as i said, it's clear that anyone who tried to hold that attack would just get completely wrecked, Zoro was the guy who choosed to sacrifice himself for the others and he accomplished that.

Sanji didn't wanted to go to the rooftop, he is willing to protect Kinemon (the Scabbards in general) and especially Momonosuke, he helped Luffy to reach the rooftop to not "waste" his strength until the main fight. Since there is no more rooftop, we can't tell what is going to happen
Do you think Sanji could have endured it? @Peroroncino pay attention to the answer to this.
 
I feel the biggest issue is, why do they even bother using Full Zoan mode? Even Kaido had this issue where he used a form that made him a huge target for no reason

Oda really needs to give us a reason for this madness
It's really just a matter of story telling and actually creating smooth plot lines without shitting on in verse implemented and general assumed powerscales.
With those he can create fight scenarios outside their main fights, that are not meant to be taken super seriously, he has a greater variety of combat feats at his disposal (those elemental attacks in Dragon form Kaido's case for example) and he can reveal their devil fruits without showcasing any of their real power.

It's especially easy with guys like Queen and Luffy, who act very goofy and clumsy at times. Those guys can get into situations that are far below their actual all out level.
And for me personally it's okay, even though it's a little annoying when it's super obvious (Dragon Form Kaido vs anyone.. basically). Where he imo went too far with, is that "Jack vs the dukes"-situation.
 
Stop this:

There is not a single indication in the manga that the Numbers are Chopper's opponent. Nothing — and I mean nothing — that is actually happening in the manga suggests that the Numbers are Chopper's opponent.

By all indications, Chopper's arc opponent is simply Queen:


Everything I said in the above post is still true.
Oh. I completely understand saying Chopper will continue facing Queen and will be pivotal in Queen's downfall. He has quite a lot of reasons to face him and if Chopper beats him (even with help), that's fine. I'm not against other possibilities and if that's what happens, I won't mind. I, personally, just don't think Chopper will be the main person to take down Queen and if he's not, seeing Chopper beat some Numbers on top of his contributions against Queen would be nice.
 
Oh. I completely understand saying Chopper will continue facing Queen and will be pivotal in Queen's downfall. He has quite a lot of reasons to face him and if Chopper beats him (even with help), that's fine. I'm not against other possibilities and if that's what happens, I won't mind. I, personally, just don't think Chopper will be the main person to take down Queen and if he's not, seeing Chopper beat some Numbers on top of his contributions against Queen would be nice.
Yeo you’re like the most well behaved One Piece Fan on this site.
:crazwhat::kaidowhat:
How has no one triggered you yet?
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There are Jinbei fans?
Yeo eat ma ass
 
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